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Infantry Schirmutze (Visor Cap)

Article about: What happened with the "guys with the knowledge"?!?! They should be along by now. Can anyone else confirm if its a late (1945) original or a fake??? Regards fpicoli

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    Hi,
    I'm about to purchase this Heer Infantry Visor Cap near mint.
    It's a Schellenberg and, according to my research (Robin Lumsden Third Reich Militaria and other books), it seems to be a good one.
    I would like your oppinion on it's originality.
    If anything is wrong, what is it?
    Can you point that, to me?
    Regards

    Fabio
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    in no expert but i think the eagles head is misshaped

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    in no expert but i think the eagles head is misshaped
    I also am no expert but i see no wear and no sweat stain looks like a fresh cap i would stay away IMO. Eric

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    Is that the infamous pigeonhead eagle?

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    Nice Late cap

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    I could be wrong and i hope i am, but this cap appears to have no wear on the internals whatsoever, nor do i like the the peak, the eagles head appears to be malformed, ie not fully finished, i understood the cap cord knots had 5 strands and not 4 but i could be wrong on this, its a lovely looking cap, but somethings ringing bells in my head

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    Thank you, guys.

    I've seen some original Visor Caps on Pat Moran and Jon Maguire's "German Headgear in World War II" Book that showed almost no signs of use at all. Signs of wear could be a reason to determine its originality? I know that we shoud be aware if something that has 60 years old seems like new, but.... no more clues on the pictures?!?!
    Anyone has a definitive position about it?

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    IMOP post war with fake goodies. ERIC

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    I wouldn't write it off based upon the fact it is a minty and unworn cap. These caps exist in the same way unissued decorations exist and unissued helmets can be found etc etc......
    I know very little about visors so can't help with authenticating the piece in question but hopefully Ben or stonemint will be along to offer their opinions.

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    Ok, after a little more research in this area I will agree with Mr Vestae and say that it is an original late war Schellenberg cap.
    I found the exact same cap while researching. It was posted on another forum by a very well respected and knowledgeable Schellenberg collector and dated to around 1945. It has a pressed paper sweatband and apparently the black underside of the visor is a feature of the late war production.
    Again, I hope the guys in the know will be along shortly to confirm the above but in the meantime, see below - the cap in question is the one at bottom left.......
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