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Article about: I posted this before in the cap authentification forum. The pictures were not very good but the verdict was 'Original late war mom n pop visor cap'. The postman came today so I took the time

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    I posted this before in the cap authentification forum. The pictures were not very good but the verdict was 'Original late war
    mom n pop visor cap'. The postman came today so I took the time to take some pictures myself. The ring under the waffenfarbe is not made from metal like usual but from some kind of plastic like material... so I don't really trust it but who knows... The eagle is made from zink but is very very lightweight... pretty cheap material ... I'm sure this is no reproduction but is it Original TR? maybe post war? I leave it to
    the specialists.

    thanks
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    All looks fine to me. I have a similar heavily used Luft Flight NCO visor. I've posted some pictures below for you to compare. Mine appears to be an Erel (Robert Lubstein). It has definitely "been there" and has a number of repairs. Whether post war or war time we can never be certain.

    The zinc eagle has lost two prongs and has been sewn on, there are rips on the top have also been sewn shut. Both of these repairs appear to be wartime.

    The sweatband has also been replaced. At first glance it seems like a recent replacement, but in hand, the backside of the leather is aged, the stitching is top notch and it passes the "smell test ". I bought it as a very recent post war sweatband "restoration", but my experience tells me it is very old, maybe even war time.

    Either way, its a legit visor, just like yours! These type of visor's, while not mint in any way, really tell a story IMHO.

    These are high rez pictures. Double click to open and then they can be expanded further.

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    I agree--hat is fine.
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    The hypercritical chatter on certain websites leads to a moronic group think, whereby the actual variety of authentic items is lost in a heap of sloppy thinking.
    That is, if a cap does not look like the picture in a Schiffer book, it is fake. Or if it is not from Lubstein in the configuration of the year 1939, it is fake and so forth.
    I hardly need to add a voice that the cap in question is perfectly fine, used in real life and with character.
    I own the RZM handbook, which in contrast to Wilkins, includes the names of thousands of handicraft cap makers of which no one has ever heard,
    and which, can you imagine...?!, made caps in the III. Reich.

    Enjoy your hat and thanks for sharing it with us.

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    Most of the names on these hundreds of pages are totally unknown and unremarked in the English language, MAX and SOS show based collector universe.
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    Of course, the Luftwaffe was not part of the NSDAP nor did the RZM control its uniforms and regalia, but my point stands as to the variety in these cosmos and the narrow perspective of some
    who joy in life is tormenting beginner collectors with an item that might deviate from what some assert is a standard.

    This phenomenon signifies a kind of fundamentalism, which is not a successful way to collect German regalia, even though there are lots of fakes.

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    mom n pop Luftwaffe visor capand read this, from the year 1942, as concerns the reaction of the textile trade to the rigors of war.

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    I was just wondering: what did post war east or west german air force caps look like? I know that for example the early post war feuerwehr caps looked (apart from the insignia) practically the same as during the TR period. Is that the same with luftwaffe caps? as far as I know, this kind of style was abandoned post war so that would mean it is for sure TR (or repro but that it isn't)... correct me if wrong cause I'm not into post war luftwaffe caps at all so I'm not really allowed to make conclusions on this topic...

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    You can rest assured that the West German air force as well as the East German air force did not wear a cap made in this manner.

    There are lots and lots of the Bundeswehr and Nationale Volksarmee caps on this site. Go look at them if you are worried.

    If you can going to collect this regalia, this site has many resources which you can find yourself with a little effort.

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    You can look here for the FRG variety. The NVA did not employ a Fliegergrau uniform for the Luftstreitkraefte.

    https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/bundeswehr-forum/

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