07-31-2010, 11:40 PM
Dear Ben, This thread has some merit, I hope. More so in certain regards than do the secondary works. Your questions are anything other than a "sidetrack." There is more rigmarole than there should be hereabouts because the number of persons with expertise is never great enough to tip the balance towards sustained knowledge. The other sites are suffocated in what is nothing more than a heap of half truths. The task of digesting the many bits in these threads and then forming a hard judgment on an authentic cap is surely a more vexing job than two decades ago. Thanks for your posts and I am grateful for your interventions. your cordial, FB
PS Adrian needs to ask Wim Saris to post here, in fact. He is a real pillar of the Uniformkunde structure.
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07-31-2010 11:40 PM
08-01-2010, 12:48 AM
Here are two UM articles from 1940 on the mechanization of uniform production at the beginning of the 20th century until 1940. Notice the reference to Frederick Winslow Taylor (siehe Bild!) and US prototypes of scientific management the volumes of which a Mainzer uniform maker had to translate himself. Globalization in the year 1892 until 1900.....
This sort of article is a gold mine and revealing in the extreme. My readers will forgive me that these illustrations contain no "sculls," "dead heads" or swastikas. Plus they are not in color..... PS Taylor is dressed other than in an SS uniform. He died in 1915.
08-01-2010, 01:00 AM
For those who read books still, this one is very interesting on many of the topics we have explored here. Mr. Chris needs to read this book in addition to the others I have mentioned. It is wonderfully written and full of nice pictures, some even of Germany.
I am still taken with the nice 1960s woman atop the Pratt and Whitney engine of the Boeing 707. A more innocent time than our own. She is not wearing an SS uniform, either.
08-01-2010, 01:09 AM
Here is the cover of the present day Kleiderkasse of the Bw, but it is not really called that any longer. It is outsourced and sleek.
They sell extremely well made trousers...
Our likes cannot buy there, though.
There is a very small number of military specialized tailors in Germany today.
I do not know about the Austrian or Swiss equivalent, though. I need to look or maybe you know....
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08-01-2010, 03:22 AM
Personally, I kinda like the skirt.
08-01-2010, 04:34 AM
Bravo! I like who is wearing it, as well. The Bw has some very wholesome women.
Here are some Austrian soldier girls with a hopeful expression. Notice cap. They look wholesome because they get very good Austrian food and are working near the vineyard.
08-01-2010, 05:27 AM
Thanks for the wonderful link. It is marvelous. So much nicer than an Apple Ipad or such other junk of the present era.
08-01-2010, 05:48 AM
I find it very impressive how deeply you gentlemen enjoy the study of headgear, and to the depths and limits of which you extend your interests with such passion . . . very nice, and a very good study you have provided here. Thank you, and please continue. I am somewhat jealous that I do not carry the same level of passion to such a degree, but am thoroughly enjoying the fruits of your effort . . .
And in the spirit of comment from a similar angle, I must say that I find Austria is gorgeous all the way around . . . and I am very excited about an up-and-coming return visit. I am looking forward to experiencing more of this wholesome quisine - but more importantly . . . to some of the pleasures provided by a few of the many such vineyards for which these ladies toil so closely to . . .
08-01-2010, 05:59 AM
Thank you, sir, and we wish you a happy journey along the Danube. Thank you for reading here and for your interventions for which we all profit greatly. schoene Reise und Servus, FB
Here are soldier girls Hoch zu Ross in Lower Austria. Unlike the Bw, the Austrians kept field grey (kinda) as their uniform color in the Bundesheer.
08-01-2010, 10:42 AM
I would very much welcome his contribution here. Sadly I do not know him, other than through his writings. If anyone does know him well, please extend him an invite. I will drop him a line however.