12-30-2011, 07:59 PM
12-30-2011 07:59 PM
12-30-2011, 08:01 PM
Very nice thank. Read the Wilkins book and then read this thread. This thread is not especially linear, but then knowledge is never neat.
This medium is scattered and it requires extra effort to make a story out of it, for it is a panoptikum.
12-30-2011, 08:51 PM
Knowledge is never neat indeed, my friend. They are ready to lynch me in the Imperial Germany & Austria-Hungary section of the forum now I believe - I tried to make a point that was utterly misunderstood and twisted around to be something it is not. Of course you know this experience already, F-B.
12-30-2011, 08:52 PM
As you say. I know all too well, and have wasted far too much time with the attempt to make the plate of pasta linear, to no good end. all the best to Norway, FB
12-30-2011, 09:04 PM
01-01-2012, 01:17 AM
I wonder if either of you could please delve into those discs and post a page from UM for me. I would like to check Number 15 from August 1, 1939 page 229. The citation should lead to a mention or description of the SS white cap.
Many thanks and Happy New Year,
01-01-2012, 01:38 AM
Happy new year, and a small gift, as I owe you whole thing and have no time to make it, at all.
This describes the introduction of the SS white tunic and the wear of a white or black cap.
I am not going to translate this all now, but perhaps later. The white tunic was to be made in a lined, or unlined version, the latter of which could be washed, versus the former, which required chemical cleaning. Such a fact should also strike terror into the hearts of stitch Taliban who imagine that the insignia stayed on the tunic forever....mention is made of the removable insignia for such a white tunic, though.
You can see that the white cap was to have a removable, washable cover, and otherwise caps were to be made with an attached cover, too.
The article also suggest that the textiles for said tunic were to be gotten from RZM or Kleiderkasse SS.
This item emerged in the last weeks of peace, obviously from this notice, and makes plain why the onset of war would make these things so rare.
The list of SS textiles is from the Kleiderkasse SS catalog of late 1940.
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01-01-2012, 01:43 AM
I have had no time to read all of these beyond about 1936, so thank you for directing my attention to this. It is astonishing how much wonderful knowledge about the process of uniform making, especially in its social and political dimensions, are in this source.
For example, here are the young women who made the embroidered insignia that cause such a stir nowadays, and I am sure that their skill can be matched by few or no imitator of the 21st century.
Reichsberufswettkampf was a co event of the HJ/BdM and DAF for the training of the best specialized artisans and workers in these needed areas of the textile trade as well as other facets of industry and trades.
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01-01-2012, 06:15 AM
01-01-2012, 06:19 AM
Ben - you have just been appointed (and soon to be annointed?) . . . a sizeable task . . . and one of which I think (eventually, maybe?) you will not be able to deny . . . Viel Glück, mein Freund! (although - you are a Brit - and knowing how "touchy" these things are, maybe I should avoid the wishes "en Deutsch"?)
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