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Re: SS-KZ Schirmmütze

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    Quote by CBH View Post
    Just an observation about the photos, it's the same location. Trees and steps match.
    and the place and the steps are located where...?



    Show me the other photos in this series, please.

    The scenes surely do appear to be in some part of greater Germany and surely not in a combat zone.
    damit, basta.

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    There are those of you very much at home with picture research in camps and such, and I cannot say it is my metier.

    Does someone have more data on this picture than the global Bundesarchiv source?Click image for larger version. 

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    damit, basta.

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    Indeed, the topography around Mauthausen looks like the scene in said image, but so do thousands of other locales in Germany and Austria or Czechia and so forth.
    damit, basta.

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    I'm unfamiliar with the location, I simply wanted to point out the fact that they seem to be the same location.

    Maybe Carl might be of help.
    Cheers Chris

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    Quote by CBH View Post
    I'm unfamiliar with the location, I simply wanted to point out the fact that they seem to be the same location.

    Maybe Carl might be of help.
    Thanks. The issue here is whether there are revealing photos in this series together with these two men with any clues as to personality, place and time.

    I rather think they can indeed be of camp personnel, since there is little evidence of combat on them, but they could also be from a Ersatz Waffen SS unit and
    be from the combat arms, as well. I am being a contrarian, since, say, the Waffen SS had a huge rear area presence in Czechia and so forth.

    Carl is the man in this kind of thing, as is Mr. d'Alquen and so forth.


    This man here likely has a cap with white piping and the brown Waffenfarbe, and he was definitely in service at Mauthhausen.Click image for larger version. 

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    damit, basta.

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    I bought a photo volume a decade and more ago at Mauthhausen with this man's image, and it is also in the Bundesarchiv series of Mauthhausen images which are legion,
    also with Eigruber and Himmler enjoying their ill gotten gain and human misery.Click image for larger version. 

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    damit, basta.

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    He sure has the face for the barbaric role he must have played, it reminds me of this.

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    Muench's Scream is appropriate for a lot of what goes on in these spaces, that's for sure.

    Thanks.
    damit, basta.

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    I think its entirely possible that there did originally exist a few brown-piped KZ caps, but I've never seen one I felt comfortable with. I believe colour-piped caps may have been privately procured by some both after and perhaps even before the six month window allowed by the regulations...

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    Quote by Arran View Post
    I think its entirely possible that there did originally exist a few brown-piped KZ caps, but I've never seen one I felt comfortable with. I believe colour-piped caps may have been privately procured by some both after and perhaps even before the six month window allowed by the regulations...
    Here speaks a voice of authority versus the all too common wish as father to the dream and so forth drivel which is the norm on websites.

    The six month "window" as you call it weighs far too much in the contemporary analysis and far too little of the actual rigors of the textile trade at the time,
    i.e. the Reichskleiderkarte and so forth.
    damit, basta.

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