Become our sponsor and display your banner here
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 24

Reichleiter visor

Article about: New addition to my Political Visor collection--- A super rare direct embroidered Reichleiter visor

  1. #11

    Default Reichsleiter

    I like those Zeumer caps, specially due to the beautiful inside label.

    Zeumer got its permission officially with the date July 18, 1936 and
    was owned by Arthur Zeumer.

    Wim is okay FB, mr. sounds as I have a degree in law (in my country).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    P
    Many
     

  3. #12

    Default

    Absolutely gorgeous visor(s) Wiki! It exudes quality and craftmanship.

    Friedrich-Berthold, wonderful examples you've shown, esp. the early SS EM/NCO! Thank you for showing period photos of the Zemer shop. I love photos of FABRIK and store fronts.

    Note that the "Z" within the Zeumer logo is designed as a Eif-rune, very clever.



    Marcus

  4. #13

    Default

    Thanks. I do not want to hijack Mr. Wiki's thread, but since Wim made the distinction between the industrial cap factory and the artisan production, I just got this Exponat and wanted to show it, since I do have
    a picture of the firm in Mannheim. Thanks to Wiki for his wonderful collection. Thanks to you all.
    damit, basta.

  5. #14
    ?

    Default More pics

    As requester --under the hood pics---Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 24.jpg 
Views:	172 
Size:	309.5 KB 
ID:	738707Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 22.jpg 
Views:	43 
Size:	324.2 KB 
ID:	738706Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 21.jpg 
Views:	164 
Size:	323.7 KB 
ID:	738705Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 25.jpg 
Views:	169 
Size:	306.5 KB 
ID:	738708Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 26.jpg 
Views:	42 
Size:	327.1 KB 
ID:	738709Click image for larger version. 

Name:	reichleiter 29.jpg 
Views:	206 
Size:	313.9 KB 
ID:	738710

    So it is indeed an RZM # 27--This visor is as close to mint as you will encounter-Beautiful toning on a very rare visor. If you consider that only 23 people of the highest political level in the Reich wore this visor with the likes of Ley, Borman,and Buch-- it glows in comparison to the much coveted SS , Heer , and Luftwaffe Generals visors. The rarest of the rare political visor!
    looking for Mint Early form 2,3 Political visors

  6. #15

    Default

    23? That is the question...
    A Reichsleiter could have purchased such a great cap, but all from the Reichsleitung
    eventually could have bought one, in my opinion, if he was able to spend the money
    for a beautiful manufactured cap as this one.

    I guess that anyway persons with the function Haupt-Befehlsleiter, Ober-Befehlsleiter
    and Befehlsleiter were persons in such a position. The highest grades Leiter eines
    Obersten Amtes
    or Stabsleiter eines Reichsleiters, Leiter eines Haupamtes or
    Stabsleiter des Leiters des Obersten Amtes (when nog being a Reichsleiter), as well as
    Leiter eines Amtes and Leiter einer Hauptstelle or Hauptabteilung.

    Persons that were allowed to wear the special aguillette and brocade were anyway, as
    they were authorized according the 1939 regulation and this were all political leaders
    with the function einer Hauptstelle and upwards (so in fact all that are mentioned
    above). This just my opinion!

    At one moment over 225 persons were active according the above functions/ranks. I will show
    later this day the personnel for some of the offices and departments. Must look for the information!
    See next post.......
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 09-11-2014 at 11:47 AM.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

  7. #16

    Default

    Here shown some offices and departments with their officials according ranks/functions related.
    With regularity persons were appointed for another rank or function, transferred to another
    department or were relieved from an office or department. All information is from the
    "Verordnungsblatt der Reichsleitung der NSDAP"!

    This is just a small % of what was going on!

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-1 img176.jpg 
Views:	186 
Size:	68.9 KB 
ID:	738859 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-2 img176.jpg 
Views:	167 
Size:	79.5 KB 
ID:	738860


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-3 img177.jpg 
Views:	164 
Size:	89.6 KB 
ID:	738861 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-4 img177.jpg 
Views:	157 
Size:	72.7 KB 
ID:	738862


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-5 img177.jpg 
Views:	46 
Size:	127.9 KB 
ID:	738863 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-6 img177.jpg 
Views:	56 
Size:	127.7 KB 
ID:	738864


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-7 img178.jpg 
Views:	182 
Size:	136.4 KB 
ID:	738865

    All of these persons and many more could have purchased the visored cap from
    this thread! Further shown a publication from 1940 and the allowance to wear
    the uniform as specified. Since later 1940 hardly any such information was supplied.
    Reasons: "secrecy for the enemy"!

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	RL-8 img179.jpg 
Views:	169 
Size:	97.6 KB 
ID:	738866
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

  8. #17

    Default

    If there was ever a place this hat deserved to be, it is in wiki's collection.
    Great score!
    NEC SOLI CEDIT

  9. #18
    ?

    Default

    Wim-I am a little confused with the post you provided. It is my understanding that only Reichleiters and State Ministers were allowed to wear the bullion piping on a political visor.
    looking for Mint Early form 2,3 Political visors

  10. #19

    Default

    I did send you a PM about found material.
    In 1939-regulations actually nothing was said about gold bullion piping, just schwefelgeld or
    goldgelb,
    but it was noted in the summer of 1939 who actually were allowed to wear the embroidered
    wreath directly to the band. Those serving within the Reichsleitung surely will have purchased
    a visored cap with matching embroidered wreath and piping.

    This is far more then Reichsleiter and State Ministers. All with the rank Abschnittleiter and
    upwards were allowed and authorized
    . This were 13 ranks, including Reichsleiter. In fact
    this were all those that were allowed to wear embroidered ranking insignia
    .

    What I can eventually do is, post all clippings (eight in total) about the subject from various sources
    from the introduction in 1939 and later.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

  11. #20

    Default

    Here are the eight clippings, eventually with some information:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-1 level colors img190.jpg 
Views:	63 
Size:	220.3 KB 
ID:	739342 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-2 dienstmütze img189.jpg 
Views:	77 
Size:	225.7 KB 
ID:	739343

    1) “Die Uniformen der Politischen Leiter der NSDAP” from order 9/39 from April 2, 1939.
    Here the color is as goldgelb; the RZM phrased it as schwefelgelb;
    2) from the same source. Golden oakleaf, either embroidered or from metal (note that nothing
    or nowhere in this regulation the word silver was used. Yes, it was, but then related to the fact
    silver insignia were forbidden for all - this is a special hint for buckle collectors);

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-3 feldbinde img191.jpg 
Views:	80 
Size:	235.2 KB 
ID:	739344 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-4 dienstmütze img192.jpg 
Views:	61 
Size:	196.2 KB 
ID:	739345

    3) Here it tells who were allowed to wear the special aiguillette and brocade. At the level of
    Reichsleitung it is said: Stelle;
    4) about the visored cap. It is said ONLY form 4.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-5 mbl.rzm July 1, 1939 img194.jpg 
Views:	56 
Size:	186.2 KB 
ID:	739346 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-6 mbl.rzm July 29, 1939 img195.jpg 
Views:	75 
Size:	219.1 KB 
ID:	739347

    5) from the Mitteilungsblatt der RZM from July 1, 1939, which says cap band with the (into it)
    embroidered oakleaf wreath;
    6) from the same source from July 29, 1939. Here it is said the embroidered cap band was allowed to be
    worn by those that also were authorized to wear embroidered collar patches (Abschnittleiter and upwards).
    All other had to wear metal;

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-7 July 18, 1939 img196.jpg 
Views:	72 
Size:	232.0 KB 
ID:	739348 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PL-8 Unterrichstafel der nsdap 1944 img198.jpg 
Views:	1622 
Size:	224.8 KB 
ID:	739349
    7) from an order from July 18, 1939 with all ranks that were allowed to wear the embroidered oakleaf wreath.
    It is obvious it were quite some persons;
    8) Unterrichtstafel der NSDAP, plate from 1944 with the ranks related to 7.

    Note one was not obliged to use embroidered stuff for the mentioned ranks. When one preferred he could
    wear the simple metal devices. For embroidered material of course goes: there are moe then one qualities!

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 09-12-2014 at 11:07 PM.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 08-07-2016, 01:58 AM
  2. 10-02-2012, 03:04 PM
  3. 04-11-2012, 01:07 PM
  4. paper visor w-ss visor?

    In SS Uniforms and insignia
    09-23-2010, 02:01 AM
  5. KM visor - Need help

    In Cap Authentication forum
    08-07-2010, 12:13 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •