-- Added this to the collection and it came from the same deceased collector as many other items I've purchased. I believe this is an SS NCO's cap? Any additional information would be most appreciated.
SS Peaked Cap (NCO)
-- Added this to the collection and it came from the same deceased collector as many other items I've purchased. I believe this is an SS NCO's cap? Any additional information would be most appreciated.
The specialists will be able to tell you on first glance whether this is authentic or not. I'd need some more pictures from the inside - the sweatband looks at least unusual - is it handstitched to the cap? So does the visor (only very rarely did grey ss-caps have the ss-RZM stamp on the underneath) is it handstiched or machine-stitched? Are there any extra stitching holes? How is the lining (which itself looks at least unusual, too) sewn in? What about the stuffing-material (can you carefully look under the lining in the area of the visor - is there cheesecloth visible?). Is there a cork or (red) foam-rubber inlay there? What is the stiffener of the centerband made of?
I don't know a thing about the insigns, so no idea if they are good.
All in all I don't like it too much. Hopefully for you the specialists will contradict me.
If it was real, it would indeed be an SS NCO cap.
Just from these pics, not a good one.
Can we see under the sweatband?
“Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”
The insignia is bad.
— What exactly are we looking for under the sweatband? Maker marks? Stitch? Fabric?by stonemint
Also, the skull and eagle are bad?
This is very unfortunate if it’s not authentic. How are these pieces from advanced collectors deceiving well reputed sellers that have been in the business for 30+ years?! This particular cap cost several thousand dollars and the ramifications of it being “no good” are disappointing to say the least. Is their guarantee good? Yes. They’ll take it back BUT why sell it in the first place as genuine? This has me stumped.
SS stuff is the cream of the crop when it comes to both desirability and value. Naturally, it’s the area that fakers will put the most effort into. Some of the reproductions circulating on the market today are very convincing, so much so that they fool even experienced dealers.
When a single cap costs thousands of dollars, fakers will sink hundreds into making it look authentic.
B.B.
No dealer is infallible, if you attend any type of militaria show there will be fakes too. As BB has stated the S.S. is one of the most sought after memorabilia by collectors and sellers alike. Years in the hobby means nothing if they lack the knowledge of period insignia and construction methods. A few weeks ago there was a thread on a "Dealer" who has been in the hobby for years, that had posted several buckles that were fake on his site, he took care of the issue but it just goes to show you it happens and it happens quite often. I would suggest that you in the future ask the dealer to hold the item and post pics here before purchase in order to evaluate the piece for authenticity before this is happens again. Also, you should do some work on your end as well, I trust my experience on certain items never the dealers claims or story. JMO G
I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "
As already stated a bad fake!
Fake insignia too...
And to echo Gwar... post here, buy later!
Best regards,
Lt. Col
Ullergaard
I don't know this advanced collector and am not pointing to him but we often see people referred to as "advanced" just because they have a large collection or a large wallet to buy expensive items. Many people then defer to them as experts based on what they own and as they appear to know a lot.
I know of a few of these personally. One guy I bought a number of items from him early on. A great guy. Honest too. I often asked him for advice. After a while I realized that he knew the basics but that was it.
On the other hand, I (and another forum member here) knew a guy of little means who had a collection of helmets that were not much more than relics. But did this guy really know his stuff! While he couldn't afford high end or even mid tier items, he was a "go to" guy.
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
I'm sorry to say that I agree that both insignia are bad
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