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SS RZM mütze tag, unissued.

Article about: This subject is outside my "comfort zone". Could someone help me with more info? Is this original? What could it be worth? PS I did the classic test (burn a thread), and it is cott

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    Default SS RZM mütze tag, unissued.

    This subject is outside my "comfort zone".

    Could someone help me with more info?

    Is this original?
    What could it be worth?

    PS
    I did the classic test (burn a thread), and it is cotton and not polyester.

    Looking forward for some feedback.
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ID:	914366I have found one loose one in my time, as this is it.

    I am not optimistic about yours. You would have to compare it in hand to a real one.

    The prototype was published by Mollo in the late 1960s and has been used as a template for fakes every since.

    If the cotton is heavier than the original, then you have your answer.

    Also, these had a serial number put on them via the RZM.
    damit, basta.

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    Thank´s for your reply Friedrich-Berthold,

    I know for a fact, that this came from a factory in Hamburg, in the 70ies.
    This could be a very fine replica...

    Do you know if the RZM number stamp was "stamped" on, before the tags went to the manufacture of uniform, caps etc?

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    Quote by vonLind View Post
    Thank´s for your reply Friedrich-Berthold,

    I know for a fact, that this came from a factory in Hamburg, in the 70ies.
    This could be a very fine replica...

    Do you know if the RZM number stamp was "stamped" on, before the tags went to the manufacture of uniform, caps etc?
    I believe the bottom serial number came from the RZM as such. The upper numbers for licenses, retail outlet etc were done by the respective firms, etc.

    Mollo published his vol. 1 with these images in 1968.

    Mine is of the weight of the others, but I did not pay much for it.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 12-17-2015 at 10:17 PM.
    damit, basta.

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    Thanks again!

    I did get the tag as a present from a friend and old time collector.
    For me this is more of an opportunity to collect more knowledge regarding this subject.

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    Quote by vonLind View Post
    Thanks again!

    I did get the tag as a present from a friend and old time collector.
    For me this is more of an opportunity to collect more knowledge regarding this subject.

    I wish I could say for absolute certain it is real, but I think it is likely a fake.

    You really have to compare it to an extant, authentic piece in a cap.

    The real ones are quite light, and not burlap like.

    The devil is in the detail.

    The tags were also faked in the III, Reich, in fact.
    damit, basta.

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    You are quite right, the devil...

    I could be wrong, but there was, or is, a rumor that American collectors created this unissued, never worn, direct from the tailors box, item during the 70ies. Then they sold it to European collectors as; out of the woodwork findings?

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    Quote by vonLind View Post
    You are quite right, the devil...

    I could be wrong, but there was, or is, a rumor that American collectors created this unissued, never worn, direct from the tailors box, item during the 70ies. Then they sold it to European collectors as; out of the woodwork findings?

    The Mollo books gave rise to a new wave of fake SS regalia of all kinds, especially insignia, but also trumpet banners and more.
    damit, basta.

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    There is always too much "out of the woodwork" material for my taste. When it comes to SS things, I prefer old collections that are liquidated.
    damit, basta.

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