SS Schaftmuetze and or Muetze, alte, hohe Form

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 11-02-2014, 04:08 AM

by Larry C

Impressive and rare acquirement Friedrich. The forum is fortunate to see this rare beauty up close. Thankyou for sharing this. Regards Larry

Thanks to you, Larry. With your able leadership and management and that of your colleagues, persons can share nice material here without the absurdities and distractions that are the norm elsewhere.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 11-02-2014 04:08 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**DrCMH** · 11-02-2014, 04:38 AM

Well done, FB. A nice addition to your excellent collection. My thanks to you as well for the closer look. I must say, those caps look even better displayed upon your lovely antique table.

CMH

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 11-02-2014, 04:55 AM

Caps as actually worn in the year 1933 or -34 and not on an antique table some eighty one years later....

**Adrian Stevenson** · 11-02-2014, 10:52 AM

Bravo and congrats on a very nice buy!

Thanks as ever for sharing it with us.

Cheers, Ade.

**Larry C** · 11-02-2014, 11:31 AM

In Friedrichs posted photo below it looks to be Pre-1933...as the Officer in front Kampfbinde has a rather crude swastika applied to the white field..and also a non regulation knife at his side. It appears to be a boot knife of some sort. Great photo ! Regards Larry

**DrPMC** · 11-02-2014, 11:58 AM

by Larry C

In Friedrichs posted photo below it looks to be Pre-1933...as the Officer in front Kampfbinde has a rather crude swastika applied to the white field..

According to the archival caption, the photo is from 27 May 1933. I've always been struck by how thuggish and gormless looking some of the men pictured appear, and how far they are from Himmler's ideal SS man.

Another image from the 'web seems to show the same NCO.

Regards, Philip

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 11-02-2014, 12:11 PM

Thanks to you all. The Bauer pictures of Dachau are from 1933 as indicated by the notations of the Bundesarchiv.

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The best analysis of this headwear is in Vol. IV of the Saris work, which I was re-reading for the fiftieth time once this cap arrived....

**DrPMC** · 11-02-2014, 12:12 PM

And a few more...

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 11-02-2014, 12:17 PM

Thanks for the further Bauer images. You are right about how thuggish these people appear in said images. How grateful we are that the Bundesarchiv has published all of these things for our analysis and use
in this context. The thug in chief was this man, and this new biography about him makes the thuggish aspect very profound for the thoughtful reader.

I often wonder about the persons whose hats are all piled up here.

**HPL2008** · 11-02-2014, 12:24 PM

These photographs also illustrate the wear of improvised/unofficial uniforms (Drillich suits and what appear to be police greatcoats combined with various types of black headgear or full black uniforms) prior to the introduction of the more practical earth-brown uniforms which, in turn, would soon give way to field grey ones.

They also show the improvised nature of the camp itself at this early stage, with the former factory buildings recognizable. (Eicke would write about his men being billeted "in drafty factory halls".)