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    Need some help on this from our uniform experts.
    Also, any idea what the cuff title says?
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    They are members of the Hilfszug Bayern, which is also what the cufftitle says.

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    Love the hats

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    is it possible to make a best possible close-up from the cuff-title, please? Hard to find
    photo!!

    It will be "Hilfszug Bayern", but would be wondered if it was "Reichsautozug
    Deutschland
    ". For a short while the RAZ and HZB did wear practically the
    same uniform (one with and one without collar-patches, as far as I know). The uniform
    was known as Sonderhilfszuguniform. The RAZ started with SA-uniforms from
    Hochland and was later a technical unt from the OSAF; the HZB was in 1938 a Motorsturm
    from the NSKK. In fact both ere assigned to the Reichsleitung der NSDAP.

    You can find more information about them in volume 3 for the series "Headgear
    of Hitler's Germany
    ", where it is dealth with (457-475) and volume 4 (452-472)

    Wonder how long the right fellow lasted in this special force? I have not seen ever any
    photo where a fellow is wearing glasses!!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Pulled this one from the net. The NSKK man might be wearing the same cuff-title:
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    Yes, he wears the cuff-title. He is from Motorsturm "Hilfszug Bayern".

    The collar-patch at the other side has the indication 40M86 and as
    he is from Motorgruppe Hochland, he is allowed to wear the specific
    Hochland-Edelweiss. This all is noted in an order from January 27,
    1938
    , as published in the NSKK-Verordnungsblatt. The order
    mentions the cuff-title to be worn with the special uniform, as well as the
    regular NSKK service-uniform.

    There are quite some photos known about the feeding of the Austrians.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Another example of the cuff title in wear was provided by Wim in post # 13 over here:

    Daggers etc. in my books

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    Good eye--probably the clearest pic of the armband in wear:
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    Do you think?

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    You could have seen all of these (and more) photos, stonemint,
    when having had volumes 3 and 4 from the headgear-series
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Here a close-up from two members from the "Hilfszug Bayern" with their
    typical beret from the Sonderhilfszuguniform.

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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