Unknown Kaiserreich/Weimar Visor

[stonemint]

Just picked this up, and any assistance in identifying the era (ie, KR or Weimar) and the organisation (ie,
Feuerwehr) would be greatly appreciated.

Hat is from Bavaria, and is made by one of my fave makers, Adalbert Breiter of Muenchen. However, this is not a high-quality hat, and is more of a "workhorse" lid, in that it exhibits minimal padding; a cotton lining; and an ersatz sweatband.

Hat is non-military, and probably civil, but I have no idea what for. Body is either a midnight blue or black doeskin. Piping is artillery red.
Note piping is only on the top of the band and the crown.

[Sir Payne]

quality or not, the exterior looks to be in mint condition. What is the "Rahm" cloth, just an added name tag?

[octavian]

Perhaps Spandua will chime in on this beauty.

[M18922]

I am thinking a small Feuerwehr facility.

Cheers, Pat

[Arran]

My best guess would be Bergbau...

[stonemint]

Arran, I would guess that too, but would expect a black velvet band and a bottom ring of piping. Time will tell....

[Scout]

Super condition and looks great. A very attractive visor.

[spandau]

Hi

Got me, no idea at all ! Civil KR would be my best guess.....but it is only a guess.

cheers

tony

[stonemint]

Tony, I think this solves the mystery--same black wool body and wool band with only 2 rings of piping. Interior confirms Feuerwehr use--exactly what I was hoping it was!:

[spandau]

Chris,

Another result !
Now we know what we are looking at.
Congrats on your find.

cheers

tony