JU 88 5J+ER Duggleby 1940
I've always loved the nose art on the Luftwaffe Planes, and one in particular caught my eye.
It's from a crash landed Junkers 88 A-5 from 7./KG4 on the 27th October 1940.
It landed on farmland in Malton, Duggleby, Yorkshire Wolds.
One crew member lost his life, Uffz Oskar Piontek Gunner.
Although the Pilot Oblt Friedrich Franz Podbielski might have died later, due to injuries sustained in the crash (??).
On the Pilots right hand side, there was a " Bat Over Moon" emblem on the side panel below the Cockpit window.
I loved this emblem as soon as I saw it, and just had to have one.. but??..
what were the colours considering the photo is in black & white?
Research showed what other enthusiasts made of of it it's certainly not the yellow and green picture
So a simple sketch was made.
09-24-2016 08:34 PM
So, a genuine Ju88 panel was acquired and painted Luftwaffe dark green.
Another war time photo showed a British guard pointing to the emblem, on the now shot down '88.
Still no clues..
I've read that the Moon and the Bat were Silver..
Would the Luftwaffe have really painted a emblem Silver on a night flying aircraft?, erm?? reflective paint , certainly not.
We can also discount Yellow paint for the same reason and the Luftwaffe didn't have large stocks of Yellow.
No national markings/ codes or paint schemes were in yellow.
Green, Black and White yes... but Yellow was used.
A very small amount was used for some of the later fuel markings.
Even in B&W it does not appear to have much if any tint to it. So I would assume both colors would be very light. A silver, white or grey.
I wouldn't worry so much about it being seen in the dark. Way to small to be noticed IMHO....
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I agree, but when it was first done, nice and fresh, I think this is how it would have looked.
Remember the flames from the inner engine exhaust would reflect any light colour, especially Silver.
British night fighter crews where on the look out for any thing in the deep black of night..
We tried every way to replicate the black & white picture, but nothing seemed correct, it just didn't look right.
So I think this is a fine example of what it would have looked like.
It is interesting that the two B&W photographs show two distinctly different aircraft nose art.
Compare for example the 'hook' at the top of both crescents, also the widest part of the crescents in comparison to the distance from the crescent right-edge to the rear edge of the Perspex in both photos. One of the crescents is further forwards than the other. Also, the first is rotated clockwise a little in comparison to the second. Align points on the artwork in relation to panel edges.
Hi Oz, maybe it's just the different angles of the pictures?
I agree - there are two artworks, as one is
slightly different from the other.
One way it could be from the same plane
is if the art was repainted/retouched.
Yes, a repaint is possible. Also possible is the aircraft being replaced due to damage/upgrade.
Could this insignia be used by a whole squadron or just a single crew? (I don't know much about the Luftwaffe).