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Article about: Hi, I was offered an opportunity to acquire this Nazi Dagger. I don't recognize this style as to the more popular daggers. I was sent these photos as they are not the greatest. The makers ma

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    Hi, I was offered an opportunity to acquire this Nazi Dagger. I don't recognize this style as to the more popular daggers. I was sent these photos as they are not the greatest. The makers mark is faint and not familiar. If at all possible, I would like some help as to the identification and authenticity of this dagger. Thanks.

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    Looks like a second model RLB EM dagger.

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    It's a 2nd Model RLB Subordinate Dagger looks like the maker "Kroneck" should have Ernst Erich Witte, and Solingen below the TM
    hope this helps,
    cheers Ronnie

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    Thanks. Yes, that helps. Daggers are not my forte. Does it look original?
    Thanks again for all of your help.

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    I think it has a chance personnally,but we could do with much clearer photograpths (Manufacturers markings grip insignia etc) cheers,Paul

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    Yes. I agree on clearer photos. . Thanks for your thoughts

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    closeup of the logo please. I think it stands a Great chance. I see what appears to be what is common to the RLB smaller logo seen on RLBs and rare case SA daggers.

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    Clearer photos please..IMO I think you have a winner. Wait and see. Regards Larry
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    Thanks. I don't have it in hand yet. When I do, after the 1st of the year. I'll take better photos.
    Thanks for your input.

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    I believe you are right. There is a faint diamond logo on the blade.

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    The dagger looks correct for a 2nd model EM RLB. Witte is a known maker of this model. Witte is also known for having lightly etched logos, sometimes even able to be removed with vigorous polishing. I have a 1st model EM by Witte & it is very well made.

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