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Luftwaffe, Heer, and Kriegsmarine Logo rarity

Article about: Gentlemen,,we have seen rarity lists for SA daggers,,I would like to turn the page and ask our non political dagger collectors to post rare maker logos for the 3 branches mentioned. You may

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    Gentlemen,,we have seen rarity lists for SA daggers,,I would like to turn the page and ask our non political dagger collectors to post rare maker logos for the 3 branches mentioned. You may post photos in any order including ..."Common" to Rare" ,, also variant logos from the same makers included.
    I know that these 3 branches were not just serviced by Eickhorn ,EP&S Holler, WKC Horster...etc. There are cottage makers that did make some of these daggers. Regards Larry

    If possible I would like to see if we can create a database for these type daggers...........Makers will correspond with post numbers


    Heer Officer Dolch:
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    Büchel Rudolf ( 2 )
    EP&S Ernst Pack & Son ( 10 )
    Schuttlehofer Arthur ( 10 )
    WKC ( 3 )

    Luftwaffe Officer Dolch
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    Herder Richard ( 7 ) 2nd model 1937
    Seilheimer Paul ( 10 ) 1st model
    Gebr. Heller -NSFK ( 15 ) " Glider pilot"

    Kriegsmarine Officers Dolch
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    Klaas Robert ( 11 )
    Last edited by Larry C; 09-15-2012 at 01:47 PM.
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    Hello Larry,
    Although not what I believe to be rare, but less common so to speak. If it is okay, I will start with my Rudolf Buchel Heer Dress dagger, bought locally as my first about 20 years ago. It has been posted on WRF before.
    Ralph.
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    More common, is my WKC Heer Officer's Dress dagger with pumpkin colored handle. Okay, maybe a little less common with this color of grip.
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    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    The following is a list of "uncommon manufacturers proofmarks" as listed in the Johnsons Edged weapons volume 4
    Carl Tillman Sohne, Lux Solingen
    Aug Malsch FR Sohn AM ,Steinbach KR.M.
    Peter Lungstrass, Solingen Ohligs
    C.Eppenstein Sohne, Solingen
    J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl
    Wilh.Welterbach, Solingen
    Fritz Barthelmess, Bavaria, Muggendorf
    Carl Heidelberg CH, Solingen
    Spateneder, Munchen
    Eduard Vitting, Solingen
    Gebruder Heller, Schmalkalden
    Rudolf Schmitt , Solingen
    ABR. Schnitter, waSo, Solingen Wald
    Gerb Krusius, Gazelle, Solingen
    Fred Neuhaus, Solingen
    Herder Engels, Solingen Ohligs
    David Malsch, DM, Steinbach
    Malsch & Ambronn, Steinbach
    Carl Bender, Solingen
    H.Herder, Solingen
    A.Schuttelhofer & Co, Asso, Solingen-Wald
    Axt-U-Hauerfabrik, Solingen
    Eickelberg & Mack, Solingen
    Gebr Burns, Solingen
    Franz Steinhoff, Mobil, Solingen-Wald
    Hermann Schneider, Solingen.Aufderhone
    J.Reuleaux, Solingen-Wald
    Hugo Berns, Hubeo, Solingen-Ohligs
    Carl FR Kuhrt, Zella Mehlis, Kom-Ges
    Melzer & Feller, Zella Mehlis
    Gottlieb Hammesfahr, Solingen.Foche
    Sudo Messer Fabrik, Gefrees
    Seilheimer Paul

    Hope this provides some info for newer collectors
    Cheers Dave
    Last edited by Larry C; 09-10-2012 at 01:40 AM.

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    Pack used three different trademark. This is the least common of them. Attachment 393071

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    HI Heers300,, Yes you are correct Pack is rarity especially on Naval daggers. Although your attachment is not opening,,,may I suggest saving the photos to your computer first and then renaming them. If you are getting them from a picture hosting site,, errors may occur in uploading. Give it a try again or send me the link to the photos in my WRF email. I will post the photos for you. Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    Axe und Hauerfabrik, my latest SA dagger
    a Werth on a SA dagger and a Herder on a Luftwaffe 1st pattern.

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    Nice SA Gerrit,, post some photos on the SA forum to be admired of those 2 beauties. The First Luft maker is a nice one, Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    Default Re: Luftwaffe, Heer, and Kriegsmarine Logo rarity

    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Nice SA Gerrit,, post some photos on the SA forum to be admired of those 2 beauties. The First Luft maker is a nice one, Regards Larry
    Thx Larry
    ive posted them already....and the pretty Luft is up for sale in the Classifieds
    the Axe post:
    Early SA Dienst Dolch, Axe und Hauerfabrik
    and the werth:
    Early SA dagger by A.Werth

    Ger

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    I went down into the crypt to see what I could dig up with more rare logos. I found this old thread http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/dagger...wn-14-go-3957/
    and borrowed a couple of photos for reference purposes. These daggers and photos belong to a guest at one time by the name of "Stu W".
    Listed are 3 very nice conditioned Heer daggers ( Arthur Schuttlehofer " Asso" ) Ernst Pack & Son "Siegfried logo" and Weyersburg Kirschbaum & Cie "WKC".
    also included is an excellent condition 1st model Luftwaffe dagger with the maker "Paul Seilheimer",, I have also added this maker to the rarity list "Davejb" has included in this thread. Lastly an Eickhorn Naval,, although not a rare maker,,the craftmanship is desirable to be included. Regards Larry
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    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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