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Free authentication and valuation service.

Article about: by DioMac Oh dear, I must admit that post by Esko Brandt gave me laugh purely for the irony! Just had a little giggle myself!....

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    Yes, that's what you get here.

    Great isn't it!

    At some point in time we've all done it or asked for help in this area.

    Some of us move on and use the forum to learn from, contribute to and are able to repay in some way the help and advice we've received either by becoming a paying member or, in turn, being able to offer help to new or old members who ask the same question.

    On the other hand there is a growing core of members, some new, others more long standing who join purely just to take advantage of the good nature and helpful stance taken by the majority of the membership here.



    Posts along the lines of 'Is it real? What's it worth' are all well and good but from members who've been here for a period of time and gained a reasonable post count? Have you not learnt anything? Are you not able to contribute any more to the forum other than posts such as above?

    For new members/collectors I can understand and sympathize with and will do my best to help, the same as most other members will but after 200 odd posts and more than say, six months on the forum you're still asking the same thing over and over again? Why is that? Are we doing anything wrong? Are things not explained properly and the advice given been difficult to digest and understand?

    I don't think so.

    I would suggest that there is a level of laziness and 'can't be bothered to look it up' going on here and it is far easier to start a new thread and get others to do the work for you rather than make a tiny effort to find out for yourself.
    There was an example recently where a member, not well established but has been here long enough to know their way around, posted a 'Is it real, how much should I pay?' type question. It was a common item of which there are are many examples posted, I know that because Ive seen them and also posted one myself.
    The member, when questioned claimed they couldn't find a similar example.
    Absolute rubbish. I went to the correct forum, typed in the item enquired about and was rewarded with five pages of results. It took less time to do than create and post a new thread.
    If you want to check something out use the SEARCH facility, do some research and try and come to some conclusions yourself. You might actually learn something!
    If you're still not sure then by all means, start a thread but don't wade in with a 'Is it real?' question and leave it at that. We are a discussion forum. Use the research you've done to incorporate into your question and discuss it.
    Stop relying on others to do the donkey work for you, especially if you know your way around the forum!

    To those members who join to find out what it's worth and if it's real purely just to line your own pocket on ebay/other forums/auction sites and have no interest in making further contributions then I'm sorry but you can take a hike.
    I would urge the membership here with integrity and decency to investigate the posting history behind these members and if you can see a trend of the above type posts then don't bother answering. You can tell a freeloader from a genuine new member/collector very easily.

    One more thing.

    To all those who ask for an appraisal/authentication/valuation on an item and then after a few hours make a new post bemoaning the lack of answers........

    ........who the hell do you think you are?

    The Forum Staff and Members are here in their own time and give their help freely and honestly. We are not an 'answer on demand' service and it really annoys me and very many others when an attitude of 'why haven't you answered my question?' comes into play.
    Surprisingly to some, we all have lives, jobs, family, friends, eating, sleeping etc to fit in around the forum so just because your question hasn't been addressed within minutes of you posting it, don't start getting impatient. Someone will be along to answer it in their own time, not at your behest!

    If any of the above could apply to you, have a word with yourself and try and become a giver rather than a taker. Make an effort!
    Best Regards,
    Adrian.



    Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....

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    I love the help i get here and appreciate the advice i am given .. Have also made some good friends.. I do get Angry at people wanting answers in 5 minutes or private messages wishing to sell me genuine RAAF items with no photos ..I dont know how you Mods get the time to breath let alone live a full life on top..You do a great job and thankyou.. If i ever have been one of the impatient people please accept my apologies .. Once again good job guys

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    And to top it all off, not even a word of thanks by return in many cases!
    Best Regards,
    Adrian.



    Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....

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    I would like to associate myself with Adrian's comments.

    Thank you Michael.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Had good advice? Saved money? Why not become a Gold Club Member, just hit the green "Join WRF Club" tab at the top of the page and help support the forum!

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    I used to be ignorant when it came to How much is it worth and what not. I tend to now find things I like, read about them, and then to top it off I would just send an expert a PM asking whats thier oppinion if I wasent 100% sure.

    I would also, like to thank the Moderaters.
    Also thank my cap mates Chris, Tony and Friedrich. Couldent ask for better people to ask when in doubt with a cap.

    Chees, Pat
    Best regards, Patrick
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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    I would like to associate myself with Adrian's comments.
    Cheers, Ade.
    Ade, I agree....... Adrian well said !
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    I have to admit I agree with you here as well. Trouble is not everyone is going to give back to the forum as much as they may take. I do like the crowd here much more than other forums I wont mention, as there are many more friendly positive people around. Myself I try to help out as much as I can, as well as trying to post interesting items that might come into my collection for others that might not know about it to learn. All of the mods here do a great job though!

    I have noticed lately the 'How much is it worth' comment seems to be thrown around all the time, and most of the time after finding out what it is. I can understand new members that find us through an internet search to verify an item,and you can tell they are not collectors, but there seems to be more "sellers" around for advice and pricing lately. Its great to know what something is worth but you get the feeling from some that the item will be on sale within the next 5 min after finding out.

    Just my thoughts gents
    Cheers
    Jason

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    All I can say is, "WELL SAID ADRIAN!"
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    As someone who is guilty of asking for advice often, I'd like to thank everyone who's ever given their opinion or told me, even the smallest bit of information.
    I especially appreciate people who give a reference to a website or a book, as those are usually the most detailed answers one can give.


    'm not particularly qualified in any of the 'common' themes, though I hope to at least point people in the right direction when I have a vague idea.


    In summary: Cheers for being good sports and helping when you can!

    Nitram

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    Oh dear Gibby, you've been rumbled!!
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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