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How to tell it is a copy Stalingrad Doc?

Article about: This is being sold clearly as a copy. Besides any wear pattern, are there any features you see that clearly make it a copy? This scares me a bit (being a novice) that it looks very good!

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    This is being sold clearly as a copy. Besides any wear pattern, are there any features you see that clearly make it a copy?
    This scares me a bit (being a novice) that it looks very good!
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    If a fake it's a scary one yes.
    Maybe it's the paper and it can only be noticed when holding in hands?

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    Quote by B618aa View Post
    This is being sold clearly as a copy. Besides any wear pattern, are there any features you see that clearly make it a copy?
    This scares me a bit (being a novice) that it looks very good!
    Hello! This is not a copy, it is quite original evidence for the Battle of Stalingrad. All is well...крутая милитари

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    Well I repeat, it is being sold as a high quality copy........not original.
    I agree that if it is a copy it is very convincing, which I find troubling.

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    COPY Soviet USSR Russian DOC to Medal For Defense of Stalingrad in WWII CCCP WW2

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    Some dealers just do not quite understand some things. There is nothing shameful, I believe that this is the original and the texture of the paper and according to the data that are indicated there.

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    maybe....I assume you could tell in hand or under a microscope if it was 'jet printer' made?
    Here is a microscope (cheap one) shot of one that I think is good.
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    Quote by Makalash View Post
    Some dealers just do not quite understand some things. There is nothing shameful, I believe that this is the original and the texture of the paper and according to the data that are indicated there.
    Thank you.
    Will be interested in what everyone thinks.

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    This is how the real seal of the 3 Guards mortar division looked like. Same in July 1943 as in May 1945.
    I dear to say the "seal" on the document above was created on a computer.
    How to tell it is a copy Stalingrad Doc?

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    Quote by Egorka View Post
    This is how the real seal of the 3 Guards mortar division looked like. Same in July 1943 as in May 1945.
    I dear to say the "seal" on the document above was created on a computer.
    How to tell it is a copy Stalingrad Doc?
    Very interesting! When you look closer at the 'stamped' seal in blue, the inside design looks like a near exact copy of the seal at the top of the page........that and it is nearly the cleanest stamp I have observed? I think you are on to something.

    We have also talked about the fact that the date on the certificate may reflect the date it was 'awarded' and not the date the certificate was written up (?) does this change your thoughts?

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