Identifying issuing location of old 1919 passport

[huddyhuddy]

Hi,

I am trying to identify the stamps on this passport, dating 1919.
The issuing body? any ideas?

It was issued to Piotr Rotenberg, and would like to learn more about him during his stay in Odessa of 1919.

Thanks,
Neil

[huddyhuddy]

Hi,

Any ideas on the meaning of this hand stamps?
And hand writing?

Thanks,
Neil

[Jerry B]

Is this a Russian passport dating from prior to the TR period? Not sure why you have posted it here, perhaps the Soviet section might be better.

[huddyhuddy]

how can i transfer this to Soviet section?
Thanks

[Jerry B]

how can i transfer this to Soviet section?
Thanks

Done it for you.

[huddyhuddy]

Tnx 8)))

[bourguignotte]

Hello,

Are you sure it is soviet? Even if the date is 1919, it is still a russian passport if we consider the eagle. Fights beetwen red and white lasted some time...

Bruno

[huddyhuddy]

Hi,

You are right about the time and conflict. The passport holder was a member of the defence of Odessa, during the French occupation of the city.
I am trying to learn, via hand writings and applied stamps, who was the issuing authority of this passport...

Neil

[gottmitunss]

i speak russian.

this looks like a pre-communist era travel passport.
page 1: "24 page, travel passport" (24 страницы, заграничный пасспорт)
page 2: Belongs to Engineer Petra (first name in russian: Пётр)
Moiseyevich (father's name in russian: Моисеевич) most likely jewish
Rutezhberg (or Rutetberg? in russian: Рутежберг) ... cant read the rest

page 3: looks like the writing says "Odessa, March 17th, 1909" (Одесса, Март 17, 1919)
page 6: not russian


The stamp says on top: Gradonachal'nik Goroda Odessa (Градоначальник города Одессы)
Gradonachalnik was like a Governor of a city and the surrounding lands. To my knowledge Gradonalachnik was personally appointed by Russian Czar...

more info in russian: Главы Одессы — Википедия


kind of ironic. i work in EMS (paramedic) field in USA, and i just transported an old lady born in 1919. this lady was alive when this guy was getting his passport stamped. she was born almost before the bolshevik regime, and certainly outlived it as well...

[huddyhuddy]

Many thanks! grt help!
Any ideas on the 2nd stamp, has writing in the second line 25 ? 28?