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Article about: Hello , What do you think of these to Mossin ammunition pouch? The first one seems to be an early well manufactured production The second is not is such a good condtion. The design is slight

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    Hello ,

    What do you think of these to Mossin ammunition pouch?

    The first one seems to be an early well manufactured production







    The second is not is such a good condtion. The design is slightly different. The Hook is not square as usual and the part closing the pouch is not sewed Inside but on top.





    I still believe them to be soviet and WW2. What do you think?

    Bruno

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    Hi.
    Both are WWII Soviet Russia. Early one is nice!

    Regards

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    Hello Kass,

    Thansk a lot for your message and confirmation. I was surprised by the D ring of the last pouch. Is this something comon or linked to a specific period of time?

    In advance thank you

    Bruno

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    Hi Bruno.
    Looks like the black one have German "alu" D ring and knob. And it does not seem to be a repair.

    Here's my four. I do like the early ones.
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    Hello Kass,

    Thank you for your message.
    Yes I was quite Lucky to find this early one. The condition was so good I was just wondering if it wasn't a later one

    Yours are very nice and show most of the possible constrauction combination.
    The belt is also very nice. It is hard to find good and nice belts. Most of those proposed ae often easter block post war prouctions.

    Here are my other pouches.

    Wartime

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    Post war german made

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    All the best

    Bruno

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    I beleive the "D"ring first showed up with the "czarist type" box pouch around 1935-36. On the Model 1937 pouch, I have seen both type of ring which would have stopped production in 1941 when they went ot the simpified ammo pouch made out of leather, synthetic canvas (Kirza) and cloth. Here are a couple of examples of the simplified ammo pouch produced from 1941 on. Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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    Quote by Markratz1 View Post
    I beleive the "D"ring first showed up with the "czarist type" box pouch around 1935-36. On the Model 1937 pouch, I have seen both type of ring which would have stopped production in 1941 when they went ot the simpified ammo pouch made out of leather, synthetic canvas (Kirza) and cloth. Here are a couple of examples of the simplified ammo pouch produced from 1941 on. Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
    My god... That pouch looks horrid to use.
    It looks as if it would fall apart instantly.

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    Hello

    My last Discovery. Also an early model if I undertand well.

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    Mossin pouch. Opinion please

    I found the annotation in German Funny. Even thoug I do not know what they mean

    Mossin pouch. Opinion please

    Bruno

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    Very interesting piece Bruno!
    The marking says "Nicht für Feldheer”: not to be used by the field army. So apparantly a pouch that was captured by the Germans, and probably used by auxiliary units like guards etc. Very interesting and I have not seen such markings before.

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    Here's a very useful link about ammo pouches:

    Evolution of Soviet rifle pouches – notes of soviet armorer

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