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Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

Article about: Here is an entrenching tool, I found locally - I know it is Russian (imo) with all markings removed except date 1944. The carrier looks Finnish. Any feedback is appreciated.

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    Default Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    Here is an entrenching tool, I found locally - I know it is Russian (imo) with all markings removed except date 1944. The carrier looks Finnish. Any feedback is appreciated.

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    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    Any stamps that says "SA" on it?
    If so, it is Finish carrier.

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    What about this one?:

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    Can't really make out if the last letter is an A.

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    The only stamp I can see is 44 in a square.
    I had other Finnish carrier and it was also "missing" SA stamp, but was 100% Finnish.
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    Cool. Didn't realise it was a number. Thought it was a letter

    Though, I don't think it is uncommon to find them without all the stamps, if any.

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    anybody ?
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    ok so the carrier is Austrian/Hungarian WWI origin.
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    I am pretty sure those you show are Russian one carrier is marked SA Finish stamp for Suomi Army the other carrier I am not sure One shovel is definetly Russian ww2 I once owned one like it with Russian letter marks and dates of ww2. I believe Fish's old field gear book shows them and there are Bulgarian WW2 ones like it with Cyrlic markings I think he said the r is a russian mark and you see this on Nagant rifles. However it has been 30 years since I read it my friend has a old copy of it I will look. German ww2 shovels don't have to have folded ears or spot welded some out of pre war and 1930 do not. That is the myth associated with this. I bet your Norweign green repaint is German ww2 as already stated by Tom as they are all left behind by retreating Germans after ww2 and re used by Norweign army. timothy

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    Default Re: Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

    Thanks.
    The Russian one is marked 1944 and the carrier has 44 in a square mark only.
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    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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