Russian Entrenching Tool w/carrier

[meyle77]

Here is an entrenching tool, I found locally - I know it is Russian (imo) with all markings removed except date 1944. The carrier looks Finnish. Any feedback is appreciated.

[37Webbing]

Any stamps that says "SA" on it?
If so, it is Finish carrier.

EDIT
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What about this one?:



Can't really make out if the last letter is an A.

[meyle77]

The only stamp I can see is 44 in a square.
I had other Finnish carrier and it was also "missing" SA stamp, but was 100% Finnish.

[37Webbing]

Cool. Didn't realise it was a number. Thought it was a letter

Though, I don't think it is uncommon to find them without all the stamps, if any.

[meyle77]

Here is another one
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/equip...nd-cover-7399/

[meyle77]

anybody ?

[meyle77]

ok so the carrier is Austrian/Hungarian WWI origin.

[timothy]

I am pretty sure those you show are Russian one carrier is marked SA Finish stamp for Suomi Army the other carrier I am not sure One shovel is definetly Russian ww2 I once owned one like it with Russian letter marks and dates of ww2. I believe Fish's old field gear book shows them and there are Bulgarian WW2 ones like it with Cyrlic markings I think he said the r is a russian mark and you see this on Nagant rifles. However it has been 30 years since I read it my friend has a old copy of it I will look. German ww2 shovels don't have to have folded ears or spot welded some out of pre war and 1930 do not. That is the myth associated with this. I bet your Norweign green repaint is German ww2 as already stated by Tom as they are all left behind by retreating Germans after ww2 and re used by Norweign army. timothy

[meyle77]

Thanks.
The Russian one is marked 1944 and the carrier has 44 in a square mark only.