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Can anybody identify this 1940 dated brass bowl?

Article about: Hey guys, I picked up this brass bowl recently and I have no clue as to its function or even if it is military. It is marked "M.M.S. ~ 1940", which means it was made by Midland Met

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    Hey guys,

    I picked up this brass bowl recently and I have no clue as to its function or even if it is military. It is marked "M.M.S. ~ 1940", which means it was made by Midland Metal Spinning Company, Limited of Wolverhampton, I think. It lacks a broad arrow, but the date might imply military use. The aluminium waterbottle is shown for comparison of the stamps

    Any ideas about this item??

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    Just a guess, but could it be the pan from an old fashioned set of cast iron weighing scales? It doesn't look very big so perhaps its for the side you put the weights? Just a stab in the dark...

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    I think warspite may be along the right lines. definitely a similarity.
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    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...."
    - Major-General John Sedgwick, 9 may 1864.
    Killed by a sniper during the battle of Spotsylvania..

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    How about it being part of a field Thermos flask???
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Its a weighing scale
    thanks

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    Hello Karkee - I'm a collector of Royal Navy rum memorabilia and have many copper rum measures made by MMS 1940. None have the 'broad arrow' applied. The RN seem to have stopped
    applying broad arrows to rum measures around 1910 -20.
    Agree that MMS is indeed Midland Metal Spinners, took me quite a while to find that piece of info.
    Could the item be made of copper?
    As for use - no idea, could be a mess deck bowl??
    Yours is the second one I have seen recently, none prior to that.
    Don't know if this site will allow me to post my web site address for Royal Navy rum memorabilia collectors, lots of info on there - Site Admin please advise

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    Thinking along the Royal Navy line and Upspirits suggestion of a mess deck bowl. How about a ships cats drinking bowl?

    Mark.

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    Quote by Upspirits View Post
    Hello Karkee - I'm a collector of Royal Navy rum memorabilia and have many copper rum measures made by MMS 1940. None have the 'broad arrow' applied. The RN seem to have stopped
    applying broad arrows to rum measures around 1910 -20.
    Agree that MMS is indeed Midland Metal Spinners, took me quite a while to find that piece of info.
    Could the item be made of copper?
    As for use - no idea, could be a mess deck bowl??
    Yours is the second one I have seen recently, none prior to that.
    Don't know if this site will allow me to post my web site address for Royal Navy rum memorabilia collectors, lots of info on there - Site Admin please advise
    Welcome to the forum. I don't think I will be flogged around the fleet for doing this.... Home

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    Very interesting web site too...

    Rgd's,

    Mark.

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    Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions, I really appreciate it!

    Upspirits - Very interesting possible connection to the Royal Navy and great website! There is a ton of great information there! Honestly, I regret buying this item as it doesn't really fit with the rest of my collection. If you need one, just let me know! Lol

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    Karkee - Have the answer to your mystery bowl. There is currently one for sale on Ebay, but a later model, 1950 something, but again MMS. In the early 1950's, the RN stamped 'Vocabulary Numbers' into most of their equipment - an early Stores ID number.
    The bowl currently for sale has a Vocab Number 52105.
    I have a copy of the 1951 Naval Victualling Manual - BR93.
    It lists Vocab Number 52105 as 'Bowl, Finger, Brass' - ( in true military style ).
    These were issued to officers messes only! ( Wardrooms ).

    The bowl you have, MMS1940, was a finger bowl in an RN wardroom during the war years!

    Upspirits!

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