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    Hello guys i have a German friend here and he gave me a few belongings of his father and uncle. His father was a driver of a general in the SS Hohenstaufen division and his uncle was the Reichsinnungsmeister of the Craftsmen's Guild for the Photographers.
    His Grandfather was a veteran of the WWI but i don't know much details for him and his service.
    I am mentioning all of the above in case they help to identify the regiment 11 disc and to explain the abbreviations on both ss and rgt. 11.

    Here are the pics:
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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Hello,

    II. Lg. N. Rgt. 11 = II. (Abteilung) Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 11 - II. Detachment/ 11th Air District Signal Regiment
    Nr A 498 - blood type "A" and soldier's number

    Quotation from Tessin's book (page 221):

    Luftgau-Nachrichten-Rgt 11 * 1. 7. 1938, FStO H a n n o v e r , WK XI; 1939 mobil mit
    I. (Nachr.) und IL (Betr.) Abt.; 1940 Abgabe des Stabes I. Abt. (mit 21 Kp.) als 11/102
    an das Flakkorps II, wird ersetzt; Stab IL Abt. (mit 21.-23. Kp.) wird 1941/42 Ln.
    Abt. 54, wieder gebildet und 1944 (mit neuer 8.-10. Kp.) Stab Ln.Abt. 85; III. Abt.
    ist 1942 Ersatz-Abt. in Hannover-Bemerode; eine 1939 gebildete IV. Abt. wird 1941
    II. Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. Belgien-Nordfrankrcich; die 1940 gebildete V. und VI. Abt.
    schließlidi IV. und VIl/Luftnachrichlcn riugmelde-Rgt. 101. Mit ihnen zusammen
    treten 1043 die 8. und 11. I lugmelde-RcsKp. in Deutschland und die 1940 errichtete
    13.—15. Kp. in Dänemark zu diesem Rgt., die 12. dagegen zum Ln.Flugmelde-Rgt. 93.
    Stab, I. Abt., 2.-5. Kp. werden 1944 in der FpÜ gelöscht. Die 6. u. 7. (Ers.) Kp. in
    Heidenau, die III. Abt. in Lübeck-Hubertus und die IV. Abt. in Appen bei Pinneberg
    (beide für Ln.Heiferinnen) unterstehen dem Ln.Ausb. und Ers.Rgt. 2. Bestehen blieb
    nur die 1. Kp. als L/Luftgau-Nachr.Abt. 1.
    G: (1939) 1.1-4 (Betr.), 5 - * (Tel.Bau), II. 7. (Ln.), 8 - 1 2 (Ln.Flugm.Res.), dazu 1940
    13—15 in Dänemark sowie eine 21. Kp.
    U: Luftgau XI


    3. S.E.K. = 3. Schützen-Ersatz-Kompanie - 3rd Rifle Ersatz Company
    126 - soldier's number

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    Hello Stacez and thanks for your reply. Does this mean that the non ss tag is a Luftwaffe one?
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    You're welcome. Exactly - it's Luftwaffe dog tag.

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    Luftwaffe signals. Thanks again
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Good discs to have with a history. I have a wehrpass with entries for LG N regt 12 & 13, so I should have spotted this when I looked at these earlier, DOH!!

    SSVT disc has gotta to be a desirable example I assume.

    Regards,

    Jerry
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Quote by Bond View Post
    Good discs to have with a history. I have a wehrpass with entries for LG N regt 12 & 13, so I should have spotted this when I looked at these earlier, DOH!!

    SSVT disc has gotta to be a desirable example I assume.

    Regards,

    Jerry
    Hi Jerry, yes it is. Check this thread for the whole story
    My Hohenstaufen Grouping
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    My late Mother-in-Laws Luftwaffe records are gone apparently, but was given this info.....dog tag:- W45-111./ Educ.Dept. f. Ln. Help Lg. Nachr Rgt. 11......the use of English is confusing!! she told us she was at Lubeck so the records show that the 111 Abteilung was at St Hubertus 44/45. Trying to figure out what her id tag would look like as i have a friend who can replicate these perfectly. I'm going to do a display for poppy collecting and would like to have a id tag on her photo display.

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    SEK ist not Schützen but Sanitäts Ersatz Kompanie.

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    Quote by Pervitin View Post
    SEK ist not Schützen but Sanitäts Ersatz Kompanie.
    Hi Pervitin.

    Are you sure about this, because I have never seen that abbreviation used in conjunction with any medical unit. Also I was under the impression that there were only 18 Sanitäts Ersatz Kompanies (later became Sanitäts Ersatz Abteilungen), so Sanitäts Ersatz Kompanie 126 would be impossible.

    There is a Sanitäts Kompanie 126, but their troops would have come from one of these 18 Sanitäts Ersatz kompanies/Abteilungen. An example of an erkennungsmarke for a soldier trained by a Sanitäts unit would be San. Ers. Kp. 1 to 18 or San. Ers. Abt. 1 to 18.

    Sanitäts Ersatz Abteilungen -
    Gliederung Sanit?ts-Ersatz-Abteilungen - Lexikon der Wehrmacht

    Sanitäts Kompanie 126
    Divisionseinheiten der 126


    Kind regards,

    Will
    Last edited by Willmore; 10-01-2021 at 12:19 AM.

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