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Article about: What would one stamp on an ID disc (reenacting) for 2 SS 3 Regiment Deutchland panzer grenadiers ? Thanks

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    That example possibly provides an interesting lesson about Erkennungsmarken and the variability of their lettering. Jean Höidal shows an example from this very unit that has a very close Stammrollennummer, 4638, so one would expect they should be identical- but they're not. That would usually suggest one is a fake since it's a bit difficult to imagine the only two discs I, at least, have ever seen just happened to fall just on either side of the change- but it's not impossible, so I looked closer. The 3 is different as is the K, the D, and Höidal's examples has the quotation marks as is proper- first low, second high, which the posted example does not; fakers often screw this up and fail to realize that the Germans don't put both quotation marks high. That didn't bode well for this new example. However- I noticed that while the last three numbers of the Stammrollennummer have no matches, both discs have a '4' and they looked quite similar- in fact they do appear to be identical; moreover the parentheses also look to be the same, and possibly the Sigrunen; although it's harder to tell with those but at least they're of very similar appearence and not clearly different. That all does seem to suggest that the 3./ SS-Deutschland Ersatz-Bataillon may well have changed the majority of its stamps at some point after the early 4000s- keeping the special characters (the parentheses, and Sigrunen), and, strangely, at least the '4' (perhaps other numbers as well, but not the '3').

    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Excellent examination and explanation Matt
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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