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03-15-2009 06:36 PM
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
Great luck you have, now you must find the bottom half
of the EKM
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
Hi Steve, that is great!
I don't understand some of the markings on the tag. The "NR" in front of the mans roll number has me confused, but I should add that I am not a tag collector.
However, "A" is the man's blood group.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
Ostmark - I'll give it a go ! Going back next Saturday.....this time with my son and a second Metal detector.....Double finds !
Ade - Thanks I couldn't work out the NR either. At first i thought it could be short for 'Number' but then I remembered it was a German dogtag.....Number is 'zahl' in German isn't it ?
Steve T
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
Hi Steve, I have had a think and a look at one of my books. How about 2 Kompanie / Landesschützen-Ersatz-Bataillon 243.
I am open to correction on this (as in all things)
BTW Nummer is also number in German so that could fit.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
Hi Steve, the way the German Army was organised was much more complex that that of the Allies. It can be a nightmare to understand.
Landesschützen were basically reserve units. So IF I am correct, the tag would be for a reserve replacement unit.
One of the problems with German dog tags too is an often lack of overall standardisation with the way a tag can be marked. Units basically did things their own way within a loose framework.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: German dogtag - What a coincidence !
While Typically "NR" means "Nacrichts Regiment" and "Nr" means number in standard German abbreviations, seems the stamper of this tag only had capital letters. Now looking at the whole thing, I can say the NR 493 is the guys personal number,
2. L.E.BTL. 243 is the second light Battalion of the 243 infantry division-
243. Infanterie-Division was formed July 1943 by the redesignation of Division B which had been undergoing formation from convalescents of the 387. Infanterie-Division. The division was largely destroyed in June 1944 defending the Cotentin peninsula. The remnants fought on as a Kampfgruppe until the division was formally disbanded 12 Sep 1944.
Commanders
Generalmajor Hermann von Witzleben (? Aug 1943 - 10 Jan 1944)
Generalleutnant Heinz Hellmich (10 Jan 1944 - 17 June 1944) (KIA) (1)
Generalmajor Bernhard Klosterkemper (17 June 1944 - 26 Sep 1944)
Operations Officers (Ia)
Hauptmann Dahman (1943)
Major Erhard Gemmrig (1 Feb 1944-5 Sep 1944)
Area of operations
Austria (Aug 1943 - Oct 1943)
France (Oct 1943 - Sep 1944)
Order of battle (1944)
Grenadier-Regiment 920
Grenadier-Regiment 921
Grenadier-Regiment 922
Artillerie-Regiment 243
Pionier-Bataillon 243
Panzerjäger-Abteilung 243
Nachrichten-Abteilung 243
Feldersatz-Bataillon 243
Versorgungseinheiten 243
Attached Heerestruppe:
Panzer-Abteilung 206 (equipped with 20 x Hotchkiss H-39, 10 x Somua S-35, 2 x Renault R-35, 6 x Renault Char B1 bis)
Footnotes
1. Heinz Hellmich was killed 17 June 1944 by a strafing Allied fighter plane.
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