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Article about: Hi, Can you help me, please, to indentify these ID Discs ? Thank you for replies. Best regards from Alsace , France. Carfin. 1) 2) 3) 4) 5)

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    Hi,

    Can you help me, please, to indentify these ID Discs ?

    Thank you for replies.
    Best regards from Alsace , France.
    Carfin.

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    Hi Carfin,

    They're: 2. Batterie/ Reserve-Flak-Abteilung 202; Luftwaffen-Bau-Kompanie 15 (Luftgau XI), 5. Batterie/ Flak-Regiment 6; what is supposed to be Wach-Abteilung Hermann Göring, but I doubt is real; and 1. Batterie/ I. Abteilung Flak-Regiment 7. You can find all the Flak units on the Lexikon der Wehrmacht site, and there may be a site for the Luftwaffen-Bau Kompanien someplace.

    HG unit discs are faked a lot- and that one you posted looks doubtful to me; and while there was a Wach-Regiment Hermann Göring, I can find no reference for a Wach-Abteilung HG.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Hi Matt,

    Thank you very much fo reply.

    Best regards from Alsace , France.
    Carfin.

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    Hi Matt,

    I search in my documentation (3 hours) & I find the "Wachregiment" Herman Göring formed in winter 1942/43 from the "Wach Btl" of the Regts. "Genéral Göring".
    In the book of : Georg Tessin: "Verbände und Truppen der Deutschen Wehrmacht und Waffen SS im Zweiten Weltkrieg 1939/1945 (book 14, page 122).
    I dont think its a fake, I have these ID Discs since 30 years.
    Thank you very much for the good informations about these ID Discs.
    Best regards from Alsace , France.
    Carfin.

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    Yes, of course, as I said there was a Wach-Regiment HG, and as you saw there were Wach-Bataillone, but your disc is marked Wach-Abteilung, of which there is no mention- the type, Abteilung, is all wrong; if you can find a Wach-Abteilung HG then maybe it's not a fake, but at the moment the marking is very dubious. The lettering is the common simple style, and as I said HG discs are faked a lot. How long you've had it is irrelevant I'm afraid- fakes have been made for a long time. The unit has to have existed for it to even potentially be real- that's the bottom line.
    Last edited by Matt L; 06-02-2012 at 04:19 AM.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Hi Matt,

    OK I have anderstand what you mean, I will search......
    Thank you for the informations.
    Best regards from Alsace , France.
    Carfin.

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    I wouldn't hold out too much hope though, Wach-Abteilung is an incorrect unit type in this case; there was Wach-BATAILLON HG, and the two are mutually exclusive- there wouldn't be a Bataillon and an Abteilung; it's one or the other. Abteilungen are the subunits of specific primary unit types too- Artilliere, for example; Infanterie-type units, on the other hand, have Bataillone, not Abteilungen.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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