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Unusual Erkennungsmarke + Miniatur

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    Default Unusual Erkennungsmarke + Miniatur

    Hi Everyone,
    Picked up a number of items at Saturday's flea-market, one being this Erkennungsmarke, chain & miniatur Erkennungsmarke. A couple of things I don't follow - what's the unit on the large dog-tag - is it an artillery one, also first time I've seen B/Gr. A stamped on tag usually its just blood group letter, anyone seen this before?. Has anyone also seen, this constellation of dog-tags (I don't usually collect them) large and small ones chained together. What's the small one for - the name is self explanatory, but the stamped numbers - personal or unit number?. Any information appreciated.
    Regards
    Alec
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    Hello,
    It stands for Schützen Ersatz Kompanie 84 (not artillery)
    b/Gr is in fact Bl Gr for Blut Gruppe A (uncommon but already seen)
    roll number 135
    the small ID tag looks french. Same shape, meant to be worn around the wrist. Scholz could be a french name from Eastern France, close to Germany...
    Not sure it helps...
    Thanks
    PREUSSENS GLORIA

    In Memoriam :
    Laurent Huart (1964-2008)

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    The small one is a Belgian army ID tag
    Regards,
    Dimas

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    Hello Dimas,
    This is not my field of collecting, but what makes you think it's belgian...(don't know how it looks like)...
    Here's a french EM ID tag for you to compare...maybe they're the same
    Thanks
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    PREUSSENS GLORIA

    In Memoriam :
    Laurent Huart (1964-2008)

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    The small one is French mod.1918 tag. Belgian IIWW were bit smaller and had no hole in bottom halve.
    This could have been issued when this German soldier bacame a POW in 1940 or 1945. However there were 2 different types of French POW tags issued to German POWs and none of them look alike this on. I don't think if this was a German from Alsace serving in French army as the tag isn't stamped according to French regulations for Army tags.
    Rgds
    Al

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    Hello Al,
    thanks for these infos...
    the stratospheric number stamped on it is quite strange...816009
    Thanks
    PREUSSENS GLORIA

    In Memoriam :
    Laurent Huart (1964-2008)

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    Default Re: Unusual Erkennungsmarke + Miniatur

    Hello Al, JPhilip,Dimas,
    Thanks gentlemen for your posts. I bought the dog-tag from an old boy, estimate age - mid sixties. His story was it belonged to his father and slipped out from between papers, the guy was selling just normal household bric-a-brac . Next time I run across him at the flea-market, I'll ask about his father ever being a P.O.W in France, perhaps he may know something.
    Regards

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