Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

[Chopperman]

That is a scary cross.

I agree- the stamps are wrong for an original
Wagner. (wrong font) I really don't like the
whole back side of this cross. The pin and
catch look close as do the hooks but the back
just looks off. I don't know how to say it that
would make sense but the back frame looks soft.
It should be flat and smooth and to me it looks
kind of wavy.

The front of the cross (what we can see of it) looks
good. But I would really like to see a good, straight
on shot that shows the crown. ---- I almost hate to
think this but I almost suspect that someone took a
perfectly good 1870 Ek2 and (Frankensteined) it into a
1st class cross.

This thing could fool a lot of people.

[unimarc]

I think it is about to, at least to some extend !

It is past 230 euros, still 8 hours to go ! Poor guy.

Mfg
Marc

[unimarc]

Sold at 450 euros !!!!!!!!!!

Mfg
Marc

[Chopperman]

At that price, either someone got one H3ll of a deal or threw away
some hard earned cash.---I am thinking the later.

That is about 1/10th of what an known original would sell for
so I am guessing most serious collectors stayed away from
it as well.

It will now be interesting to see which forum it pops up one.

[Chopperman]

I am surprised Miro has not joined the conversation.
He might say that I am totally wrong about this cross.
(which I might be) I know I would not spend my own
money on this on without having much better pictures
or holding it in hand.

[unimarc]

Not to think bad of other people's fortune, but I hope you are right :-/
I know I don't have money enough to take chances like this !

Mfg
Marc

[JamesWatson]

This one has got very odd looking details on its crown and possibly "new" rust.

German 1870 Iron Cross 2nd Class Franco Prussian War | eBay

[Chopperman]

I'm adding the picture so that we still have it once the
ebay link goes dead.

[Chopperman]

That cross is a perfect example of the "Latvian Fake"
This cross can be found as a 1813,1914 and 1939.
It also is seen as a 1st or 2nd class and as a grand
cross and with the star to the grand cross and with
all sorts of different means of attachments.

These are easy to spot from the distintive look of the
inner corners and the round crown on the Imperial versions.

[JamesWatson]

I'm adding the picture so that we still have it once the
ebay link goes dead.

Yikes. Someone just paid 470.00 for that one on ebay. Poor collector...