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06-26-2012 11:37 PM
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
Oh that's interesting. Unfortunately we did not meet the reserve price for it, but I did manage to find an interesting saw back, but no maker name on it. here are some pictures Attachment 363584Attachment 363585Attachment 363586Attachment 363587
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
Julekpl, the one you've just posted is only in fair to good condition.
It is very worn and the wood is dark and possibly no scabbard.
Sould be worth around $100 - although it is a sawback.........
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
That's what I thought, but no maker name? and the date is clearly worn as well... That will certainly reduce the value....
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
I'd save my money and wait for a better example.
They are not that hard to find.........
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
I think I'll wait a bit. Thank you all for the help!
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
The information about the "jkh 44" being a WWII frog is very enlightening.
What would I look for to find an authentic WWI frog?
If the bayonet is marked Erfurt on the recasso, would the frog also be marked Erfurt?
thanks,
Richard
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
Not necessarily, although it might have been possible. These components
were produced by many different companies throughout Germany in both
wars, and there was no 'matching-up' of any makers pieces ( except for
bayonets and their scabbards which were originally issued as a
matching serial numbered set )
An authentic WWI frog generally has a slimmer shape at the waist
- a slightly different design and stitching than the WWII types.
I would think the majority are also maker marked
and dated.........
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
Would the ww1 frogs have any imperial markings? Like a crown?
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Re: Any tips for purchasing a ww1 "butcher" bayonet?
I don't believe so, because they are not weapons or ordnance which usually
have acceptance or ownership stamps - however, as an example, Swiss
and Danish leather items each carry symbols of authority on them
in the form of the Geneva Cross and Royal Crown emblems,
so I suppose it's possible.
Something similar that comes to mind are German belt tabs which have
makers names - usually in an oval cartouche with the date of
manufacture - but nothing else.........
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