Help to ID two Imperial German crowns

[Georg]

I picked up these two Imperial German crowns, I have been trying to ID them but none of the collectors in my area can ID them. They are 3 ¾ “ X 4 ¾ “, they appears to be a metal casting w/ attachment pins on the back.

[unimarc]

Don't know what they are for, but they sure looks nice ;-)

Mfg
Marc

[ww1czechlegion]

Hello Georg,

They look similar in shape/design to the smaller size and thinner stamped crown on a Hessen buckle. Not sure what these are for, but I would say probably something dealing with the Hessen Grand Duchy.

Best Regards,

Alan

[SteveR]

Alan
I thought the very same thing when I first saw them but after a comparison I noticed there are subtle differences between the Hessen buckle crown and a Prussian crown.
The design on the brow band of the what I think may be Prussian crown, the brow band of the crown pictured above, has a square in the center with circles and oblong shapes running to the back. The Hession crown has diamonds and 4 small dots in a diamond shape running around the brow band.
I have posted a photo of a Hessen buckle for comparison.
Just an observation

[Georg]

Thanks – I took them to a military show, one of the guys said that they look like decorative attachment to a Prussian Parade saddle Skirt- that kind of make sense to me-what do you guys think?

[aicusv]

I would have to agree that they are off a Schabracke.

[Kris1981]

I'm trying to identify a similar crown, placed on the grips of a 1916 bayonet:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/imper...6/#post1759634