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05-06-2012 09:42 PM
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
More images needed to I.D. it looks O.K. on the interior, Officers or one year volunteer private purchase..would need to see images of top side, by the distortions/depressions on the inside of the crown, I would say cruciform spike mount...no idea on the rear spine fastner.
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
You downloaded the images as I posted......I will evaluate....
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
This is a "Beamte" Kugellhelm from an Artillery regiment, identified by the small "Reich" contingent wappen (small eagle motif) affixed to the Prussian front plate (Large Wappen)....a "Beamte" is a military employed official, not a soldier, but a civil servant with the rank equivalent to "Leutnant", they had different styles of Pickelhaubes to regular units of the Imperial army, the most popular known "Beamte" is the "Zahlmeister" or pay master. These types of Pickelhaubes are rarely shown or discussed in reference books.....they are rare when compared to the availability of regular haubes. A good find...worth around $800+
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
Here are two additional photo, let me know if you would like any other angles.
Thanks for all the info, it is much appreciated. Could you tell me approximately what year it was used? It looks alot higher quality than the 1915 wwi helmets, my guess would be an M95. Also, the "Reich contingent" wappen, am I wrong to assume that that eagle was used in colonial function? As for the price, I got it for $550 us, so I would say I got a good deal.
Thanks again,
Jess
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
Jess..this is an M95 era haube.... The Pickelhaube was first used by the East African Schutztruppe as part of their home uniform in 1891 (04.06.1891 rules). Then it was dropped in the 1896 rules.... then brought back in 1916 ( the same year it was all but dropped by the regular army). All this was for home use only. I've not seen Pickelhaubes used in the colonies (Africa, that is). That style of "Reichsadler" was also uesd by the Police/Gendarmerie, now that's an entirely new sphere to go into......
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
$550 for a mint condition Kugellhelm? Yes...I would have to agree-you did, indeed, get a fine deal! Nice find!
William
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
IMO it has no connection to Colonial troops...it is a Beamte helmet. The Colonial helmets you show use the larger Reichsadler to indicate German status rather than a State status, i.e. Prussian/Bavarian/Saxon etc etc.....very much like the Imperial Kaiserliche Marine (Navy) and its Seebatallions, drawn from all over Germany and not one particular State (they use a version of the Reichsadler), unlike the Army. I think you are looking for some thing that is not there.....
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: Help Identifying This Artillery Pickelhaube
Thank so much for the explination, I was confused about the use of the Reichsadler. I have certainly learned a lot about Beamte in the last two days. I found a nice illustration of Beamte ornaments on another forum which I'll post below. I also looked up on Wikipedia what exactly a Beamte is. It is an interesting system to have been set up in what was essentially an Oligarchy. Anyway, this all leads me to another question about the use of the small Reich wappen. Would this signify an officer on a Federal level representative rather than say a local or state officer which would be identified by a small version of the state's crest?
Thanks again,
Jess
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