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09-22-2016 08:52 PM
# ADS
Circuit advertisement
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I'm not seeing anything that says post war. It looks to be a TR era Donald Duck. Nice.
William
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."
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Looks okay to me also. Nice to see the tally.
There is positioned an eagle and a cockade, not a wreath!
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I found some things out
First of all, I was not questioning whether this Tellermutze is postwar or not. Since Linienschiff Hannover made her maiden trip in 1905 and was taken out of service in 1936, I felt like this tellermutze could have been made anywhere inbetween. For example if this cap was made in 1918, an upgrade with this TR hoheitsadler wouldn't have been logical after all those years. Then this piece would be historically incorrect. BUT I found out that the fraktur-styled tallys were introduced in 1930. So that means my cap is for sure a 1930's product. The 24.3.1934 regulation states that the earlier national kokarde should be replaced by a hoheitseagle. They probably reissued this only (maximum) 4 year old tellermutze and gave it an eagle. The combo of the Tellermutze and the eagle was my largest concern but i'm happy it turns out to be plausible and historically acurate
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This stye of cap came into being with orders of April 5, 1921 and was
upgraded in April 1926, (Marineverordnungsblatt, nr. 96 from 1926,
page 91) to be further developed per December 1931 and known as
"Tellermütze", but also as "Schlöffelmütze".
The Latin lettering was replaced by Gothic, known as deutscher Schrift,
in October 1929 (Marineverordnungsblatt, nr.246 from 1929, page 156),
but took until early 1930. For Linienschiff Hannover this was about February
1930 (Ostseestationtagesbefehl, nr. 30 from 1930), but before April 1930.
It is literally said "auf den Tag der Indienststellung, bzw. Bildung".
The eagle actually was ordered on April 10, 1934 (Ostseestationtagesbefehl,
nr. 58), to be worn the next day (ab Dienstbeginn). See the announcement
from March 29, 1934 and actual introduction from April 10, 1934:
Due to the height of the front, to me it seems a cap according 1931
regulation. The eagle with cockade fit perfectly. It seems to me also
the eagle is the second form from about April 1935 and is from
gilded aluminum or light-weight metals!
Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 09-23-2016 at 05:46 PM.
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thanks man! that is some great information!
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Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 09-24-2016 at 12:03 PM.
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again a nice bit of research, appreciate this! a bit dissapointed though
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