New Record Asking Price for a Contract A-SS Visor?

**Arran** · 02-07-2013, 08:52 PM

by Friedrich-Berthold

At the risk of being abrupt and even rude, SS material was always expensive and always attracted fakers, and despite this fact, the collecting of same seems as vital if not more so. The fakers are a fact of life, and I hardly see this unfortunate phenomenon actually being more than an irritation. Akin, in its own way, to the resistance in France to German occupation, nez pas?

As to knowledge, many collectors cannot understand knowledge even when we bust our a$$ to give it to them on a silver platter. There is much more knowledge around than when I was a pup, so it is also true that you cannot collect this material on a subsistence wage salary or rely on garage sales to find complete black SS uniforms.

Life is inherently unfair and the digital age is more unfair than earlier times.

I agree. Is there an area of collecting in which high prices and fakes have been fatal to the hobby? I can't think of one. People still collect Old Masters and Faberge eggs...

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-07-2013 08:52 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-07-2013, 09:02 PM

New Record Asking Price for a Contract A-SS Visor?

by Arran

I agree. Is there an area of collecting in which high prices and fakes have been fatal to the hobby? I can't think of one. People still collect Old Masters and Faberge eggs...

Well said. The faking of things of value is one of the more noteworthy and curious aspects of society and man's aspirations to status and glory.

Relics of the saints have been faked, too, for as long as Christianity has existed, and the latter seems to be going along pretty well.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-07-2013, 09:10 PM

I am sure that this thing is faked, too.....but no one seems to being losing heart.

**N.C. Wyeth** · 02-07-2013, 09:35 PM

by Friedrich-Berthold

Relics of the saints have been faked, too, for as long as Christianity has existed, and the latter seems to be going along pretty well.

Comparing NS regalia and Christian relics . . . a concept so profoundly astute, I would say . . . especially when descrbing the anguish a collector faces when attempting to discern a forgery.

How many times I have stood in front of a relic of some long-deceased saint, and asked myself, "Do I believe"? . . . and how many times have I stood in front of somone peddling a TR relic, and asked myself the same question?

Funny how I find that comparison to be so perverse, yet so appropriate at the same time . . .

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-07-2013, 09:39 PM

by N.C. Wyeth

Comparing NS regalia and Christian relics . . . a concept so profoundly astute, I would say . . . especially when descrbing the anguish a collector faces when attempting to discern a forgery.

How many times I have stood in front of a relic of some long-deceased saint, and asked myself, "Do I believe"? . . . and how many times have I stood in front of somone peddling a TR relic, and asked myself the same question?

Funny how I find that comparison to be so perverse, yet so appropriate at the same time . . .

Dear Friend, not at all, in fact, as you know as do I that national socialism is a secular religion, the leading figures of which were fallen Catholics who re engineered the symbolism and liturgy of the church to their false god of race and integral nationalism. You and I love Vienna, and people there having been faking things of value there for a very, very long time. When I went there in the early 1970s, the Nazi fake trade was booming.

A friend of mine spent a year in Florence in the 1980s, whereby his attractive girl friend became an apprentice furniture restorer. She found that the Ateliers in the Tuscan heaven were all busily cranking out fake furniture to beat the band.

my best to you, FB

**N.C. Wyeth** · 02-07-2013, 09:46 PM

Tuscan fakers in Florence, you say? How fitting, I suppose.

Like each of us, I too fret over both prices and forgery . . . but lately have come to find solace in a break from collecting, and a renewed interest in reading. A blessing in disguise for my pocketbook, and a pleasure for my mind at the same time.

Maybe some good advice to those of which you are fretting about this afternoon?

My best to you as well - hang in there, and don't sweat the small guys . . .

**Larry C** · 02-07-2013, 09:46 PM

by S.Vestae

Please Friedrich-Berthold tell me why have you a true Pic's fixation when you post a new answer ?

S. Vestae,, Pictures are worth more than a thousand words could describe,,when something so obvious is in front of the persons nose the fail to see whats behind it since they are only focusing on whats in front of them. You cant run down a hill and think you will catch someone by surprise,, but time and patience and careful thought will open ones eyes and see the whole picture of whats blocking that persons vision of that blockage.

@ Friedrich Berthold......no need to explain yourself...your photos say much more than what anyone can express,, as I myself was blind and it took time before I began to see. Regards Larry

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-07-2013, 09:51 PM

by N.C. Wyeth

Tuscan fakers in Florence, you say? How fitting, I suppose.

Like each of us, I too fret over both prices and forgery . . . but lately have come to find solace in a break from collecting, and a renewed interest in reading. A blessing in disguise for my pocketbook, and a pleasure for my mind at the same time.

Maybe some good advice to those of which you are fretting about this afternoon?

My best to you as well - hang in there, and don't sweat the small guys . . .

Well said and thanks for your work here. I appreciate it as do all the others, I am sure.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-07-2013, 09:52 PM

by Larry C

S. Vestae,, Pictures are worth more than a thousand words could describe,,when something so obvious is in front of the persons nose the fail to see whats behind it since they are only focusing on whats in front of them. You cant run down a hill and think you will catch someone by surprise,, but time and patience and careful thought will open ones eyes and see the whole picture of whats blocking that persons vision of that blockage.

@ Friedrich Berthold......no need to explain yourself...your photos say much more than what anyone can express,, as I myself was blind and it took time before I began to see. Regards Larry

Thank you, dear colleague, you make my point far better than can I. warm regards, FB

**Little Mermaid** · 02-07-2013, 09:57 PM

FB has spent many hours trying to help the members in the forum by taking photos of and finding photos of real caps. I do not know about you, Vestae, but I am grateful for his help and effort in helping us learn. In order to learn - and to teach - we will need the power of photos and symbols. One learns best if he can look at photos while reading.