ID discs from Stalingrad

**Sebastien** · 03-26-2011, 06:09 PM

Hi guys,
I want to buy this dog tag. What do you think about this?
The font looks like a handmade, is not it?
Now I have only one photo.
Thank you for your opinions!

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-26-2011 06:09 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Glenn66** · 03-26-2011, 06:21 PM

It's not one that I would buy Sebastien. Can I ask why you like it so much?

**Sebastien** · 03-26-2011, 06:39 PM

by Glenn66

It's not one that I would buy Sebastien. Can I ask why you like it so much?

I want to change this dog tag on my dog tag View image: P1000153
I noticed that very rarely dig up the dog tags from 71st and 295th infantry divisions. And this dog tag of 295 Infantry Division. Axis History Factbook: 295. Infanterie-Division
(October 15, 1942 Infanterie-Regiment 518 was renamed in the Grenadier-Regiment 518.) 518 Infantry Regiment fought in the central city of Stalingrad during the battle of all time . The Regiment fought not far from my home.

What do you think about my barter?
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**Glenn66** · 03-26-2011, 06:56 PM

OK, I see why the tag is important to you. If you can trade for your erstatz Kav dog tag then fine, now the only question is the Gr518 tag original? From your photo I can't be sure, hopefully Matt or Stacz will come along to give their opinion but I think everyone will want a photo of the Gr518 tag from the straight on position, not at an angle like we see above. Do you know the finder of the Gr518 tag personally and trust that it is a genuine find?

**Sebastien** · 03-26-2011, 07:08 PM

by Glenn66

Do you know the finder of the Gr518 tag personally and trust that it is a genuine find?

I asked the better photos.
I do not know the finder of the Gr518 tag personally, but this guy from Volgograd (Stalingrad), too.
I have the experience to determine the originality of the dog tags. This ID disc looks real, but the font is not standard.

**Killroy** · 03-26-2011, 07:58 PM

Just keep in mind that these are very easy to make and age in the hands of a good faker. Things that are not standard often scare me away for this unless they have rock solid provance. As we all know there were may variations in the 3rd Reich but there are also many variations in the 4th Reich!

Jeff

**Sebastien** · 03-26-2011, 08:19 PM

by Killroy

Just keep in mind that these are very easy to make and age in the hands of a good faker. Things that are not standard often scare me away for this unless they have rock solid provance. As we all know there were may variations in the 3rd Reich but there are also many variations in the 4th Reich!

Jeff

Thanks for your opinions!

Also I worried by the fact that there is no blood group.
Maybe this dog tag is not received by a soldier

**Sebastien** · 03-27-2011, 09:38 AM

Here are some other photos of the dog tag.

This dog tag is not found near Stalingrad, the dog tag found in the place of the POW camp (Prisoner-of-war camp) near the town Ilovlya (85 kilometers from Stalingrad).

What do you think, now?

**Frundsberg** · 03-27-2011, 10:28 AM

I think it is original but seems that it was found with its previous owner. Look at the oxidation - very typical for wargrave founds.

**Glenn66** · 03-27-2011, 11:19 AM

I understand there were many numbers of deaths in the POW camps directly after the surrender. Some have speculated that the majority of the deaths of all the number who surrendered were in the first few weeks after the surrender when the Soviets were (a) unprepared for taking such large numbers of prisoners and (b) unwilling to care for the prisoners in any case.