Need Help Please, Real or Fake??

**Glenn66** · 03-08-2012, 09:33 PM

My Btl 327 disc was a Stalingrad purchase also but a different seller than the Rgt 111.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-08-2012 09:33 PM

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**Paul D** · 03-08-2012, 09:35 PM

Looks like some interesting variations in stampings from Kompanie to Kompanie on tags from the same unit from the same time period Glenn !!

**noble** · 03-09-2012, 08:07 PM

thanks again matt.

**Glenn66** · 03-10-2012, 09:46 AM

A thought I had a second 2. Kompanie Rgt 111 disc around. I never displayed it because the level of corrosion is so bad. From memory I bought it at a later date from the above 2. kompanie seller.
Is it likely that this type of corrosion is from exposure to human remains? I'm sure i've read that somewhere but at the time of purchase I was unaware. This disc was bought partly covered with some hard brown verdigris that was really hard to remove. A shame if this disc was grave robbed.

**Matt L** · 03-10-2012, 05:03 PM

I don't think it's reasonable to link a 'type' of corrosion with remains- without serious testing, the most that might be said is that it's consistent, but that'd hardly be the only cause. Ground conditions are extremely variable, even on the centimetre level sometimes.

**Glenn66** · 03-10-2012, 05:19 PM

Good to know Matt. I'd hate to be supporting black digging in any way.

In any case, we have a 2nd example of the 2. kompanie 'mot' disc yet this one is aluminium as compared to zinc for my other example. In your experience, is it unusual to see different material discs within the same kompanie?

**Matt L** · 03-10-2012, 05:52 PM

I would generally ask any seller I hadn't previously dealt with where he gets his stuff and specifically if he ever finds remains- rather than asking directly if he takes stuff from graves; that way if the answer is affirmative you can nonchelantly ask how that's dealt with- contacting authorities, or what? Depending on how they answer you can probably get an idea if they're black diggers. If someone seems not to care, don't deal with them.

Until recently I'd have said it would seem odd, but that group of Fallschirmjager discs recently posted about is mixed as well so it would seem it wasn't so uncommon. Those are all rather late-war, however it does seem reasonable to believe that supply dictated what was available and I guess sometimes the stampers didn't take care to finish one lot before moving on to another but just mixed them together or something.