88mm Tiger round !!

[Matt L]

Thanks but I know German stuff reasonably well and that's about all LOL Bill is the man when it comes to ordnance, I'm the guy who holds his hat LOL

[Paul D]

Matt thanks for the help hope this assists with the ID,

cheers

Paul

[don_kihotis7]

Hi guys.
Paul is this a dug found relic from Estonia?

[Matt L]

So that's the base of the case? It's certainly not a normal Flak 18 (8,8-30 St) case- that primer well is huge; the size of the C/12 and C/22 primers used by rounds from 5cm up are just 33mm across, and the interior doesn't look like that either- the well ends in a flat section with a simple hole in the middle; that one almost looks like a type of case with the long tube for spreading the primer flame within a granular propellent- German munitions all used bundled long stick propellent in bags. Even if that's the base of the projectile, it's weird- again the interior doesn't match the norm at all. Which is it and what's the diameter of the opening Paul?

Also regardless of what we do eventually find, if there's no primer it's can never be said to even likely be a Tiger round; since the Flak used exactly the same-looking ammunition, the only way to differentiate them is by ink markings on the case, like the one I show in my own thread about Tiger ammo, or by the primer if it's clearly original to the round. There were only a very tiny number of Tigers compared to Flak, so the vast, vast majority of ammunition was for the Flak, thus virtually every round you're likely to see is Flak, not tank.

[Paul D]

Matt it's not the base of the case but of the shell itself. Will post a photo of the shellcase,

cheers

Paul

[Matt L]

Ah, okay; at first I thought it must be but then it's standing on its nose without any visible support so I wondered then if it was the case LOL

Are you sure the shell is empty? Completely empty it should have a large cavity with a rounded far end- the stuff that's in there in the photo looks like the end of the charge container, so the only thing that's missing is the Bdz. f. 8,8cm Pzgr fuze.

[Paul D]

Bottom of case and primer

[Matt L]

Ah, that's a C/12 percussion primer, so it's a Flak round- sorry, not Tiger.

[Paul D]

Thanks Matt have you a photo of the Tiger shell primer ?

cheers

Paul

[Matt L]

Have a look at my recent thread about the Tiger case- I show the base and the primer is nice and clear It basically has an inset circular element in the middle that's the electrical contact point.