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Luftwaffe 20 mm round

Article about: This is my newly acquired 20 mm tracer round. It's deactivated, and the phosphorus tracer charge has been removed. It was used in fighters like the Bf 109. I hope that you like it. All the b

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    This is my newly acquired 20 mm tracer round. It's deactivated, and the phosphorus tracer charge has been removed. It was used in fighters like the Bf 109. I hope that you like it.

    All the best
    Stig Erik
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    Luftwaffe 20 mm round  

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    Fantastic round Erik, I enjoy seeing any kind of munitions. I like the tapering on the end of the casing, I guess for the feeding system. I haven't seen Herbie the "Love Bug" since I was a kid.

    Jay

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    Thank you very much.

    My four year old son, is a huge fan of Herbie.

    All the best
    Stig Erik

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    haha love herbie and the m109 round very nice condition

    tom

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    I like it! Would love to have one for my collection.

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    That's a nice 2cm MGFF round- Bf109E, Bf110C, FW190A (outer wing cannon) and some heavy flexible mounts for bombers used these; supereded mostly by the superior 2cm MG151/20 which had a higher muzzle velocity and was belted- the MGFF had just a 50-rd drum magazine usually (although I have seen some rare links for some odd belt-fed version).
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Thank you very much, for all the great information.

    All the best
    Stig Erik

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    Also the projectile doesn't belong to the case- clearly the case has been fired so its original projectile is gone, but you notice where the crimp is on the case- it's rather lower down than the groove on the projectile; that's a 2cm Flak API projectile, not a 2cm MGFF one. So you have a bit from each type of ammunition, not one single one.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Here's an example of an actual Panzergranate of an MGFF round:

    Luftwaffe 20 mm round

    Note the groove is down from the driving band and the base is rather short; the Flak rounds have a narrow groove right under the driving band and a long base- since they used a rather longer-burning tracer. The Army Waffenamt stamp on your projectile shows it's Flak too- Luftwaffe ammunition had Luftwaffe acceptance stamps, which look different; you can see one on the base of your case.

    Oh and the maker code 'kam' was HASAG Eisen u. Metallwerke GmbH, Werk Skarzysko-Kamienna.
    Last edited by Matt L; 10-04-2011 at 07:38 PM.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Hi

    Nice round ! Love 20 mm rounds !

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