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Article about: Hi, can you tell me which pattern is this hbt jacket. from my informations I think it is a pattern 1944, but I'm not so sure... it can be a 1942 pattern? Thank you in advanced! Annoyed from

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    Hi,
    can you tell me which pattern is this hbt jacket. from my informations I think it is a pattern 1944, but I'm not so sure... it can be a 1942 pattern?

    Thank you in advanced!

    partisan
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    Not easy to guess the exact pattern depending on the photos only... and the most important - there was not an official terminology like M1942 or M1944 reffering to HBT uniforms. Much suitable is to operate with numbers of specifications used during the war - check details as mentioned below (info is a quote originating from the Usmilitariaforum) - yours jacket is Spec No. 45B or 45B(Special):
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    Spec No. 45
    Pre-war design, light OD, waist adjusting tabs, no gas flap, hem band, no provision for attaching a hood, small pockets with 'cut off corners'

    Spec No. 45B
    1942 design, light OD, expanding cargo pockets on the chest, no hem band, no gas flap, no provision for attaching a hood, no waist adjusting tabs

    Spec No. 45B (Special)
    Same spec as Spec No. 45B but with gas flap and buttons to attach hood

    Spec No. 45D
    1943, same as Spec No. 45B (Special) but now in OD7, variations of pocket pleats have been observed with different makers (In my opinion the pleats were a variation, not a new pattern. It seems the choice of pleat was optional for manufacturers)

    Spec No. 375 (Camo HBT)
    Resembles Spec No. 45D, hidden buttons, reinforced elbows, pockets on green side

    Spec No. 45E
    Basically the same as Spec No. 45D but with simplified pockets (smaller size, squared or 'cut off corner' design), has small pencil sleeve inside pocket, very late introduction date (if issued at all during WWII)
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    Referring to the question whether is it a war or post war jacket the answer is - it is wartime pattern, jacket most likely manufactured during the war, however it is not possible to give statement without the producer label - some contracts were conncluded in 1945. I will try to check when last conntracts were made.

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    Hi Tomasz70,

    You give me many informations... Thank you very much!!!

    So my jacket is not post war, now I wait to know tha date of last contract.

    Best regards
    partisan

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    Seems that Special OD No 7 Herringbone Twill Jacket 45D was finally contracted on 1945-02-16. Contracts given by the Philadelphia Quartermaster Depot to:
    HALE STITCHING ROOM INC
    STYLE SPECIALISTS INC
    COVERALL MFG CO
    H LANG COMPANY
    LEBANON SHIRT CO
    RELIANCE MFG CO
    FRANK LUFTIG & SONS
    VILLA RICA MILLS GARMENT DIVISION
    S L ROBINSON CO
    FITZ INC
    MILLER MFG CO INC
    ANGELICA JACKET CO
    Your HBT does not look like OD7, then it must be much earlier.

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    Great! Thank you Tomasz70!

    partisan

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