HI there Ed
First off these are US Army Air Force Shoulder Sleeve Insignia WWII era.
The First pic is Army Air Force SSI (1941-47)and the second pic is British theatre made US Strategic Air Force c 1944/45.
The USAF came into existence 1947.
Phill
Gidday Ed
When we collect militaria , the learning doesn't stop , everyday is a school day for all of us so you weren't being ignorant , like me i wouldn't know the nuances in what you specialize in.
Glad to help.
Phill
Both are ww2 the second patch looks foreign made
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