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KA-BAR without USMC on the blade?

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    Is this a KA-BAR or something else?

    The blade measures 7"
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    KA-BAR without USMC on the blade?   KA-BAR without USMC on the blade?  


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    Quote by kvanderstel View Post
    Is this a KA-BAR or something else?

    The blade measures 7"
    looks like one to me, except the maker is camillus, I have forgotten who made the most, but camillius is a fine brand I have 2 m-4 bayonets made by them for my m-1 carbine, which btw the m-4 bayo's had many makers, even Dutch & Japanese post war on the Japanese KIFFE brand. nice blade you own.

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    Camillus was war time. They were really similar to Kabars. I have around 3 of them and two Kabars. Yours looks like a nice example. Yours looks around WW2 post war.

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    This is a fairly RECENT Camillus 'MkII'.

    Camillus did make knives during WWII, but this knife is most likely from
    the '70's or '80's. They went out of business several years ago,
    but the MkII is still made by 'Ontario'.

    The 'tell' on this type of knife - to know if it is modern - is the 'U.S.' above
    the maker, plus, the handle and scabbard colour are both waterproofed
    with a shiney chocolate brown coating.

    Original leather sheaths were natural tan/light brown in colour.


    Below are three modern Camillus Mk II's and a repro Kabar USMC MkII.
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    Last edited by Walkwolf; 09-09-2010 at 01:31 AM.
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Quote by Walkwolf View Post
    This is a fairly RECENT Camillus 'MkII'.

    Camillus Cutlery went out of business a few years ago.
    This knife is most likely from the '70's or '80's.

    The 'tell' on this type of knife - to know if it is modern,
    is the 'U.S.' above the maker......
    Steve, no I didn't know but the ww2 era trench, or fighting knives didn't have the U.S. on them, all of my m-4 bayonets have U.S. m-4 on them, just didn't know this, thanks for the info.

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    The 'US-M3' and 'US-M4' blades are a different animal than the MkII.
    Generally, the 5" MkI and 7" MkII's knives were used by the US Navy and Marine Corps.

    ''Ka-Bar'' is only one makers name, but people associate the MkII with this name
    because of their popularity, so they have all come to be known as 'Ka-Bars'.

    True WWII Ka-Bar's display the company name and 'Olean N.Y.' underneath,
    on one side of the ricasso, and 'USMC' on the reverse side.............
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Quote by Walkwolf View Post
    The 'US-M3' and 'US-M4' blades are a different animal than the MkII.
    Generally, the 5" MkI and 7" MkII's knives were used by the US Navy and Marine Corps.

    ''Ka-Bar'' is only one makers name, but people associate the MkII with this name
    because of their popularity, so they have all come to be known as 'Ka-Bars'.

    True WWII Ka-Bar's display the company name and 'Olean N.Y.' underneath,
    on one side of the ricasso, and 'USMC' on the reverse side.............
    yeah I just always called them Ka-Bar's also, oh well, thanks you taught me a fact I wasn't really aware of thanks I appreciate it.

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    Quote by crazy horse View Post
    yeah I just always called them Ka-Bar's also, oh well, thanks you taught me a fact I wasn't really aware of thanks I appreciate it.
    It is why we are all here................!

    ( I love US Military knives ! )
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Well, it's been in my dad's collection for a while, so I'd have to say 70's. So it is correct to call it a KA-BAR even though it was manufactured by Camillus? And it is an authentic military issue?

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    Quote by kvanderstel View Post
    Well, it's been in my dad's collection for a while, so I'd have to say 70's. So it is correct to call it a KA-BAR even though it was manufactured by Camillus? And it is an authentic military issue?
    I think these are 'military issue', but they are known as Mark II ( MkII ).
    Regards,


    Steve.

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