Auction items .. Good, Bad or Indifferent ?

[Robspad]

NOT EVERYTHING THAT SHINES IS GOLD

This seller sell at time ago:
1st Polish Indep. Para Brigade - certificate Item number: 270091569714



Obvious fake.
Kwiatkowski confirm the same this is false and his son write about this on his website: O Ojcu
O Ojcu

[wadowicznic]

Fellows

Hope You well.
I guess this auction will attract a lot of interest and comments.

WW2 Polish Paratroops Wing, Collar Badges & Cap Badge on eBay (end time 20-Mar-11 20:08:30 GMT)

We do have a number of experienced Collectors on the Forum with the knowledge re 1SBS to determine the authenticity of the objects listed.

What do You think?

[MichalMag]

Hello!

Badge and eagle appers to be genuine.

Best Regards

[A.J. Zawadzki]

Hello!

Badge and eagle appers to be genuine.

Best Regards

Let's post the pics:

[A.J. Zawadzki]

missed one:

[dorava]

Certainly no expert in this field
and at first glance all seemed well

but looking more carefully one disturbing sign..
a bubble on the para insigina on the right

bubbles are usually a mark left by an air bubble in rubber moldings..
the only way to be sure would be to take exact measurements
as usually pieces made in rubber moldings are usually smaller that the original

[Adrian Stevenson]

I am fairly sure these are bad too. I had a fake pair and the backs looked just the same. The paper glowed....

Cheers, Ade.

[StefanM]

a bubble on the para insigina on the right

bubbles are usually a mark left by an air bubble in rubber moldings..

Are originals die struck? If so, then one would expect both insignia to have the same "bubble" or imperfection? If they were cast then I would think a "bubble" might well appear in some castings and not on others.
There is a similar but indented "bubble" in the other insignia photo.
Would one use a rubber mould to cast in metal and not plaster of paris such as used by scultptors creating foundery moulds for bronze castings etc.

[MichalMag]

Another bubble

[wadowicznic]

Fellows
I agree with all of You who remain suspicious about the “collars”
For the reference – the ones from my collection - source – a person who in the past was co-author / lead-writer of “spadochron”
Collars bought in 2001

No “bubbles”

This seller is most likely not aware some of those problematic details and may have had purchased this set “as is”

On something else
I apologise for the “white cut-outs” – but – I would like to contribute to making obstacles to counterfeiters who I believe are visiting this forum routinely learning details.
I am so upset looking at some of the stuff recently offered in the market via ebay and “private transactions” that I am seriously considering giving up collecting


Regards