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05-10-2012 04:29 PM
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Re: German kriegsmarine naval school matrosenmütze
Early examples of the Matrosenmütze had two piece insignia, but the eagle on this looks like an Army cap eagle. Certainly a visor cap sized eagle. The eagle for the sailors cap was smaller. By 1941 the single piece eagle/cockade was in use. Also the cap ribbon is not Kriegsmarine, but an earlier pre-3rd Reich Reichsmarine ribbon.
What material is the internal stiffener for the band of the cap. Issue Kriegsmarine caps used celluloid (similar to the celluloid used for the sweat diamonds - but thicker of course , and opaque and like many period sweat diamonds, by now often brittle).
It would be very unusual to see a sweat diamond on a Kriegsmarine issue Matrosenmütze. At least none of the originals I have ever seen or owned have had one. KM issue caps also had a removeable top. This one looks to have a permanently affixed top.
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Re: German kriegsmarine naval school matrosenmütze
The stiffener material might be OK. Officer and NCO caps often have a stiffener made from a woven material similar to buckram in white or black which was treated to make it water resistant.
Your cap certainly isnt a regulation issue cap, but there was no shortage of manufacturers of private purchase caps, which could explain minor differences in construction technique, the use of a sweat diamond etc. I've never seen a sailors cap with a sweatband attached by a double row of stitching like this though.
Definitely not a WW1 cap.
Can you make out what the letterings says. It looks like "xxxx UND ERGAZUNG" which doesn't really make sense.
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Re: German kriegsmarine naval school matrosenmütze
thanks for your time redcap !
heres all I can make out
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UND
ERGAZUNG
next to it is 1941
on the back is a diamond with a capital A in it and 05
a name handwritten H.Lochmein
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Re: German kriegsmarine naval school matrosenmütze
The stamp bothers me. If it is indeed ERGAZUNG, I don't think that is an actual word in German and I'm pretty sure its not a name. Nearest I can think of is ERGÄNZUNG, and such mis-spellings are a common feature on many reproductions.
All I can really say is that the cap doesn't match any style of construction I have ever seen on an authentic Kriegsmarine era Matrosenmütze.
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Re: German kriegsmarine naval school matrosenmütze
I appreciate your input Redcap.
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