Pre WWII german or austrian visor cap?

[levaid]

Hello Guys!

I bought this cap on saturday. It looks like a Bundesbahn cap, but the material is similar than the WWII visor caps. Ther liner is leather. I didn't find same caps on the internet. The badge is missing unfortunately.
Could you help me to identify it?

Thank you!

[stonemint]

Postwar cap--not Austrian, but German.
Not sure of the organisation---could be mining, but they usually have a black velvet band.

[ErWeSa]

Hello levaid,

it is not an Austrian cap and it is not a pre- but a postwar cap. The cockade is one of the BRD. Could be a fireman's cap but the colour of the piping appears to be red - firemen's caps piping were more carmine.
What exactly does the tag in the sweat diamond say? Schw. Gmünd could be Schwäbisch Gmünd, a town in Baden-Württemberg/Germany. The rest is illegible - coud you post a better picture?

One of the specialists will tell you what exactly it is.

EDIT: Stonemint was quicker than me - not for the first time!

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Bravo, Wolfgang. It is Schwaebisch Gmuend, plainly.

[HPL2008]

Schw. Gmünd could be Schwäbisch Gmünd, a town in Baden-Württemberg/Germany. The rest is illegible - coud you post a better picture?

Schwäbisch Gmünd, as you said, then Kiesäcker (followed by the house number, but I can't quite make that one out).

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Servus, Andreas. Wir sind alle sehr froh beisammen.

[levaid]

Thank you all! The text inside is: Franz Stelzner - Schw. Gmünd - Kiesdeker 4/1.

[ErWeSa]

Froh zu sein bedarf es wenig, und wer froh ist...

Erinnert mich an die Volksschulzeit, schöner Kanon! Wenn man denn (noch) froh sein könnte...
The imponderabilia of life.
levaid: HPL2008 is right, it is Kiesäcker! (Which doesn't help to identify the cap.)