Südmark Kepi for Reivew/Comment

[stonemint]

Looking for thoughts/comments on this one.
No RZM tag:

[heyst56]

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[harryamb2]

looks ok to me.

[stonemint]

Any other opinions?

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Any other opinions?

I sold a much nicer one to Bob Coleman for an officer, which I know to be 110%.

Ask Bob what he thinks. This is a slightly odd looking item.

Or Wim Saris should say something here, too.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

I actually owned two of these for officers, in fact, one of which is in the Saris book, which was heavily worn. It is on pp. 561.

It is for the SA Gruppe Oder, though......

I owned many of Alfred Ex's kepis in the 1990s into the early part of the last decade.

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RZM tags do fall out...

[Wilhelm Saris]

It is obvious an earlier worn color was removed and the Südmark color
positioned over the ventilation-holes (these one can see on the inside).
The Austrian Edelweiss upon the correct color of diamond is positioned,
as how it should.

I wonder however why the coating from the button totally is gone and
why there is no evidence for an RZM tag inside (they were sewn on).
Why this button, which might have been a golden one (Südmark had
to wear a silver button) in contrary to a brandnew eagle and brandnew
flower. Were they replaced, at a later date? Apparently!!
A written name on the sweatband does not guarantee originality, neither
does some controll-ticket. From these photos I cannot give a 100% solution
or immediately say: okay! Just my opinion!

By the way: better photographs are required to see the color for the
brown twill. Now it looks not the color as for the brown-shirt, but that
could be optical illusion.

[heyst56]

Pre RZM cap (no color ) with added color band and New model eagle ? IMO

Known practice in those days

[Friedrich-Berthold]

It is obvious an earlier worn color was removed and the Südmark color
positioned over the ventilation-holes (these one can see on the inside).
The Austrian Edelweiss upon the correct color of diamond is positioned,
as how it should.

I wonder however why the coating from the button totally is gone and
why there is no evidence for an RZM tag inside. Why this button, which
might have been a golden one (Südmark had to wear a silver button) in
contrary to a brandnew eagle and brandnew flower. Were they replaced,
at a later date? Apparently!!
A written name on the sweatband does not guarantee originality, neither
does some controll-ticket. From these photos I cannot give a 100% solution
or immediately say: okay! Just my opinion!

A sound assessment. Wim's golden book on NSDAP and SA headwear is a miracle.
I also bought his RAD headwear vol. V while in Europe just now. Bravo.
We are very lucky to have such an expert to guide us all in our stumblings.

[Anzel]

The inner lining and color of the "Brownshirt" material looks very similar to one of mine that seems to be not in favor by many. It was stated that the lining was inconsistent with period caps. I would have to say that this either extends the discussion on Kepis with such characteristics at the very least.