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12-19-2010 07:47 AM
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Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
Fake.
All you have to remember is the so called "coffin" shaped tab which holds the pin in place. Used on a whole range of fakes.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
I agree, there are many of them around on all types of badges
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
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Adrian Stevenson
Fake.
All you have to remember is the so called "coffin" shaped tab which holds the pin in place. Used on a whole range of fakes.
Cheers, Ade.
Ade ,I just want to make sure any pins or badges with the coffin tab are fakes?
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
Hi Chris, that is correct, a coffin tab is the kiss of death. Sorry for the bad pun!
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
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Adrian Stevenson
Hi Chris, that is correct, a coffin tab is the kiss of death. Sorry for the bad pun!
Cheers, Ade.
Thank you Ade, that is some great info.It was given to me so no lost. I know why now.
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
Apart from the wrong pin plate the detail on the front of the badge is
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
Thank you guys for the info.
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
It is ``sand cast`` replica, i.e. Fake. To make shampleve enamel one needs espensive cast steel stamping tool to produce depressions where enamel powder is applied and then fired at very high temperature to melt into enamel (glass, in fact). Sand cast is cheap but leaves rough surface as seen in this badge. More dangerous are fakes made in hungary and poland. Once the enamel is fired the only ``coffin tab`` is applied with low temperature soldering with tin. So called ``hard soldering`` is impossible because the enamel would crack.
Ivan
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Re: Early HJ membership badge: real or fake
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PROF DR IVAN MILOVIC
It is ``sand cast`` replica, i.e. Fake. To make shampleve enamel one needs espensive cast steel stamping tool to produce depressions where enamel powder is applied and then fired at very high temperature to melt into enamel (glass, in fact). Sand cast is cheap but leaves rough surface as seen in this badge. More dangerous are fakes made in hungary and poland. Once the enamel is fired the only ``coffin tab`` is applied with low temperature soldering with tin. So called ``hard soldering`` is impossible because the enamel would crack.
Ivan
This is very good stuff.Thank you for the info.
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