HJ Raute in Blue.

[FrankBooth]

Many collectors, myself included years ago, have been taken on these odd colored H.J. badges. Pure fantasy items. Do a search of this forum for that maker mark "Otto Hoffman" and "colored H.J. member pins" and you will find a lot of examples of these odd colored badges almost always marked with this maker mark. Jo has shown a period advertisement from Otto Hoffman, but the advertisement only mentions cloth items not metal insignia. To my knowledge there has yet to be shown any mention of a color variance in the H.J. member badges in period regulations or documents, and I doubt there ever will be one found as it just does not exist.

[Mark Tuson]

Thanks everyone for all your comments and knowledge its really appreciated.
The guy that owns it can have it back.
Cheers

[harryamb2]

I shall put mine under the hammer.

[HJ-Collector]

bad fakes, old otto hoffers fake pins originaly had coffin shaped pin pates but this was caught onto so they done a bit better round ones and took a few thousand more collectors, found in translucent enamel and solid opaque, the faker never thought to research what the Real Otto Hoffmann made! which wasnt badges but cloth items i believe!

been around for years so are found damaged and look ''old'' proof that all that shines isnt gold

[HJ-Collector]

Many collectors, myself included years ago, have been taken on these odd colored H.J. badges. Pure fantasy items. Do a search of this forum for that maker mark "Otto Hoffman" and "colored H.J. member pins" and you will find a lot of examples of these odd colored badges almost always marked with this maker mark. Jo has shown a period advertisement from Otto Hoffman, but the advertisement only mentions cloth items not metal insignia. To my knowledge there has yet to be shown any mention of a color variance in the H.J. member badges in period regulations or documents, and I doubt there ever will be one found as it just does not exist.

oops i really should read all replys first lol