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06-01-2016, 03:02 PM
#221
Sumftarn jacke lower pocket dividers.
Good afternoon gents,
This is something that has puzzled me for a while and I wonder if anyone can shed some light here.
The third patt sumpftarn jacke has two dived smaller sections in each lower pocket.
They are of a bellows type construction and I have often heard them described as "magazine pockets"
I am not so sure though. Firstly, why would this be so when magazine pouches of robust design were issued and even empty magazines would soon wear holes in the jacket if carried in this way.
Seccondly, whilst either of each pair will accommodate a NATO 7.62mm 20 round magazine ( I used an L1A1 British type for illustration but all NATO 7.62 mags are very close in dimensions) it is not an easy operation to put it in and once in there is not enough room to get a seccond one in.
So, were these just handy little compartments or were they meant for something specific?
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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06-01-2016 03:02 PM
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06-01-2016, 03:10 PM
#222
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06-01-2016, 08:32 PM
#223
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Tommywal
Hi guys,
Can anyone offer some pointers as to what the RAL code is for the BGS helmet? I found somewhere that mentioned the RAL code is 6012 but it looks like the shade of green is a lot lighter than that.
I just saw this as I was going through the thread so I wonder if you have sorted it yet?
If not I think you will find that the colour you need is RAL 6005 Moos Gruen (Moss Green).
I hope this helps
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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06-08-2016, 01:26 PM
#224
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06-08-2016, 08:20 PM
#225
Very nice addition Mark ,i think the vented m50 helms predate your example using refurbed war time shells or new made shells in the early 50's ,your vented m35/53 example as with the ventless ran concurrently together as far as im aware
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06-09-2016, 01:12 AM
#226
Thanks James, I still have huge holes in my knowledge in respect of the BGS items that I am becoming more fascinated with by the day! Can you point me towards reference pics of the M50 helmet?
Also any other reference sources would be very much appreciated.
I am cultivating some "humint" sources at the moment but they are vets rather than collectors so they don't always grasp the detail we collectors are after because a "helmet is a helmet, right?"
Whatever I learn I will be sure to post here.
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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06-09-2016, 07:08 PM
#227
Hi Mark ,the m50 I mentioned, it was designated m35/50 as far as I know ,and used by the BePo " BEREITSCHAFTSPOLIZIE" .: World War Helmets - Casque M35/50 :.
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06-13-2016, 04:05 PM
#228
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06-13-2016, 04:10 PM
#229
BGS Scarfe
Here is the scarfe I mentioned. It is the same size as the current BW flecktarn type but is made from much more almost "luxuriant" fabric.
Anyone know any detail about these?
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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06-13-2016, 04:20 PM
#230
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