M1 Shell opinions

**1802marine** · 08-19-2012, 04:26 PM

Can anyone comment on these 2 shells?

1. Said to be a McCord 899D dated to about 5/44. Front seam, swivel bale, stainless rim

2. Schlueter 380A , front seam, stainless rim

Any and all comments/opinions will be greatly appreciated

**NickD** · 08-19-2012, 04:29 PM

2x WW2 M-1 shells with post war repaints.

**aj4010** · 08-19-2012, 04:59 PM

by NickD

2x WW2 M-1 shells with post war repaints.

The Schlueter seems to have been recorked?

Best Regards,

Andy

**NickD** · 08-19-2012, 06:01 PM

probably someones poor attempt at trying to refurb it !!

**António Fragoeiro** · 08-19-2012, 06:14 PM

by aj4010

The Schlueter seems to have been recorked?

Best Regards,

Andy

An horrible job in my opinion.
Looks bad.
Cheers.
Nuno

**MySonsDad** · 08-20-2012, 01:12 AM

The Schl has been post war re-corked and painted no doubt but I don't think it is an amature "garage" job even though it looks so shotty, just crappy depot refurb. It's missing texture on the sides from helmet stacking. I don't think someone doing garage refurbs is going to be stacking and tearing up his lids IMO.

Russ

**aj4010** · 08-20-2012, 01:30 AM

by MySonsDad

The Schl has been post war re-corked and painted no doubt but I don't think it is an amature "garage" job even though it looks so shotty, just crappy depot refurb. It's missing texture on the sides from helmet stacking. I don't think someone doing garage refurbs is going to be stacking and tearing up his lids IMO.

Russ

Good point!
I wonder if it's out of National Guard storage?

Best Regards,

Andy

**1802marine** · 08-20-2012, 02:40 AM

Thanks to all who responded. The seller of these shells evidently has a LOT of these as well as Korean and Viet Nam era stuff. The front seam shells do not all have this heavy corking finish. They come in all sorts of condition and evidently have bee stacked for some time.
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I probably will be better off waiting for a complete helmet and liner. Thanks again for the information

**moaning minnie** · 08-20-2012, 11:36 AM

i partly agree with russ that many were field supply depot refurbs.however i dont believe cork would have been used as all main stream McCord production was applying sand aggregate.but that cork looks intense to say the least,how easy is it to spot a postwar repaint?was it the visor that gave away the schlueter?these stack marks as russ stated are most likely depot storage prior to being auctioned off due to phasing out in the late 70's early 80's with the arrival of the kevlar helmet,regards dave.

**MySonsDad** · 08-20-2012, 02:18 PM

by moaning minnie

i partly agree with russ that many were field supply depot refurbs.however i dont believe cork would have been used as all main stream McCord production was applying sand aggregate.but that cork looks intense to say the least,

There are a couple of Ebay sellers that move a lot of these surplus helmets and it is quite common to see these odd textured helmets pass by every now and again which could lend one to believe that some of these helmets passed through some kind of intermediate depot repair/refurb centers that maybe used a different texturing process (looks more like stucco on homes here in the states in the 1970s) than that of the original application. Maybe a more modernized process that made it much simpler to texture than the mixing of the cork or sand to the paint.....and the result were these ugly texture jobs. Just a thought!

I guess this is all a little off topic but to learn the answers and reasons why would be very interesting.

Russ