Original Freiwillige Feuerwehr shoulder boards and collar tabs?

[bittaker]

I am stuck in limbo here as as i think the tabs are ok, but i am not certain about the boards?
Help is appreciated.
Stig

[bigmacglenn]

The tricky part is that such insignia has been worn by municipal fire departments all across Germany for 70+ years...They could be from the 1950s-60s as well...This is the first time I've seen a Black Border on such Tabs, btw...Either way, these shouldn't be priced very high, in my opinion...
cheers, Glenn

[HPL2008]

Blank carmine collar patches with black piping were worn by members of the Freiwillige Feuerwehren [volunteer fire brigades] with the ranks of Feuerwehrmann up to and including Löschmeister until 1939 and by members of the Pflichtfeuerwehren [compulsory fire brigades] with the ranks of Anwärter up to and including Truppführer from 1940 until the end of the war.

The shoulder boards are for the rank of Oberbrandmeister of the Berufsfeuerwehr [professional fire department] or Freiwillige Feuerwehr [volunteer fire department] as used until 1939... that is, if they are from the Third Reich period:

As Glenn said, rank insignia of this style have been worn by German fire brigades for a long time and are still in use in several states, and I honestly wouldn't know how to date them.

[bittaker]

Thanx gentlemen.
Stig