M1/52 Deschler ,,fake skull,,

**ToxicGas** · 08-04-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm showing here a photo posted by Dimas in the skulls and eagles sticky thread... the one on the right seems to show the same wear / patina as the one here. Both are Deschlers, though I don't know if they are made of the same metals.

Just pointing out something I noticed, I have no strong reasons to believe this skull to be real or fake.

Mat

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 08-04-2011 12:50 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Calvaria** · 08-06-2011, 09:55 AM

Toxic skull is 100% orginal .

Im was posted this skull not to be sure is org or not.
Im posted for other collectors to show them another varietty of M1/52.
People have to learn during the whole live.
And nobody is perfect skull expert.
Im the same skull expert like other experts from this forum.
Because skull is not for sale and nobody know me perssonaly on this forum I have no reason to hoodwink people from this forum.
Was founded some years ago on beatlefield 60 kilometers from Berlin.
Somebody in April 1945 say good bye to this skull.
She was waiting many many years in the ground for more lucky owner.
Peter
P.S Because people must learn thru the whole life I think I must learn more englisch (: (:

**Calvaria** · 08-06-2011, 10:00 AM

Ops i posted twice
Sorry

**Dean** · 08-06-2011, 10:16 AM

It doesnt look like a cast to me but a stamped piece.IMO. I have found the best experts on this forum to be wrong before every once in a great while, so nobody's opinion is ever really without fault all the time. That's the point of this forum is to educated one another on different various versions of items and dont ever subscribe to dreadful concept of "textbook" , it will poison your mind.
~Dean

**Wagriff** · 08-06-2011, 06:15 PM

Calvaria, Your English is doing just fine! And, for the record, I still believe your skull is genuine. If you ever want to throw that "fake" away, throw it to Me....lol William

**cris403** · 08-09-2011, 05:58 PM

Here is an original example of the same skull (with crossed "Z" in the RZM logo), if we ignore the different pin fixing for a moment, you will notice that the M1/52 mark is well defined and clear, now compare with the O/P skull.

O/P skull is IMO bad.

**cris403** · 08-09-2011, 06:06 PM

Here are better photos to compare the skuls:

My skull on top (original) ... OP skull on bottom (fake)

**Calvaria** · 08-09-2011, 09:17 PM

Cris Eureka You are a true,,expert,,.
Here are pics of RZM marks on ,,fake,, skull. For me they made more carrefully like on yours skull (:

**Calvaria** · 08-09-2011, 09:35 PM

O.K Cris I change my minds.
Your skull is orginal and much better like mine.
I wrote this worlds because Im tired .
I think is time to close this thread.
Mine next thread will be about this skull.
Nice combination of proof marks.
Dont you think Cris ?

**carlsson1982** · 08-09-2011, 09:41 PM

Also Original.

p.s this skull here had the same attachments, but I didn't see someone complaining about It.
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