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Article about: Could anyone help me out. Picked up this EK2 this week. Nice shape with some very minor rust only visible in tiny corners under a 40x loop. And a small blemish to the paint on the front. It

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    Could anyone help me out. Picked up this EK2 this week. Nice shape with some very minor rust only visible in tiny corners under a 40x loop. And a small blemish to the paint on the front.

    It is not marked and can not determine the maker.

    As always, any help is appreciated.

    Regards,

    Michael

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    Regards,

    Michael
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    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Sorry, but this is a well known fake. Ribbon is good.

    I hope you can get you money back.

    Regards

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    Quote by Nick Hessens View Post
    Sorry, but this is a well known fake. Ribbon is good.

    I hope you can get you money back.

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    Yes I can. Thanks! Anything in particular that I can point out when I return?

    He's a good honest dealer and has always taken back bad items.

    Michael
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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    hí Michael
    send back because Nick is right

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    Quote by Nick Hessens View Post
    Sorry, but this is a well known fake. Ribbon is good.

    I hope you can get you money back.

    Regards
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    Thanks Nick and Sanya,

    Not doubting anyone and appreciate the sage advice. Was just hoping for a little more info so I could hopefully spot this in the future and provide a little explaination when I return it (although that is not a requirement from my dealer friend).

    Regards,

    Michael
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Curios also to see what are the red flags with this example.

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    Me too

    It looks like my Deumer

    Nick
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    I can't say for sure that this is a Floch, although the dates compare very well to this type of fake. For me the biggest giveaway is the Katze & Deyhle style '3' in the reverse date, but this isn't a K&D cross!

    The core simply does not match any known original.

    Regards,
    Nick

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    Good points Nick, from what I know of the Floch fake, this example isn't one of those. There is none of the expected cross-hatching on the corners of the frame for example. You may be right about the reverse 3, I have no experience in that regard.

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    Good eye Nick

    Nick
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